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Re: Impeachment hearings

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Why didn't Trump have the DOJ investigate the Bidens?


Because based on the clear evidence the Biden's /were/are dirty has heck in regards to the Ukraine and tax payer dollars...millions of dollars seem to have been funneled through the Bidens, with whom Biden was taking the lead on giving Billions of tax payer dollars to the Ukraine. Hunter flew on air force two and maybe even air force one, to do business in different countries, including the Ukraine. The timing of Joe Biden associates, and family, receiving monies from known corrupt corporations is absolutely telling, and stinks to high heaven and deserves a deep investigation.

They, the Biden's, were in cahoots and defending a known criminal who is now on the run from prosecution for corruption, and is hiding in another country . And I am more than willing to go over this evidence with you. In fact I have already pasted some with only "nuh uhh" dodges in response. You can show me how much homework you have done and understand what was going on in the Ukraine, my guess is, as most always you just follow the talking points, as you did with this question, and do not have a clue of what the counter argument, and evidence for support of it, and have not even studied both sides of the argument, but are just repeating a question you have not even looked into.

Why did Bernie, Warren, Klobuchar...all running against Trump...sit in as Jurors against Trump, talk smack about him in their campaigning, vote to convict him, all the while running against him as president? This is a important question in supporting my assertion and answer to Tish's original question.

In hindsight, given the political climate, in my opinion he should have put the DoJ on them. I also believe he should, if he hasn't already do so now. in my opinion he should just keep his mouth shut and keep getting things done, but I have given up on that long ago, it is just not in his DNA. But I also understand that due to the hatred that is thrown at him, it may be the only way to drain and cleanup the swamp...which is happening before our eyes...LOL...Romney is now circling the drain...Clinton's gone, Bush's gone, Pelosi starting to circle and implode, the left wing spokes holes in a state of panic.

But back to my answer, it is not required by law or precedence to only have the DoJ investigate, the president has the right, and I would argue duty, to order an investigation and call out corruption, even if the corrupt person is running for office against them, or in a different party.
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Re: Impeachment hearings

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Markk wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
Why didn't Trump have the DOJ investigate the Bidens?


Because based on the clear evidence the Biden's /were/are dirty has heck in regards to the Ukraine and tax payer dollars...millions of dollars seem to have been funneled through the Bidens, with whom Biden was taking the lead on giving Billions of tax payer dollars to the Ukraine. Hunter flew on air force two and maybe even air force one, to do business in different countries, including the Ukraine. The timing of Joe Biden associates, and family, receiving monies from known corrupt corporations is absolutely telling, and stinks to high heaven and deserves a deep investigation.

They, the Biden's, were in cahoots and defending a known criminal who is now on the run from prosecution for corruption, and is hiding in another country . And I am more than willing to go over this evidence with you. In fact I have already pasted some with only "nuh uhh" dodges in response. You can show me how much homework you have done and understand what was going on in the Ukraine, my guess is, as most always you just follow the talking points, as you did with this question, and do not have a clue of what the counter argument, and evidence for support of it, and have not even studied both sides of the argument, but are just repeating a question you have not even looked into. ... .


Just to remind you - this was the question you were asked:

Jersey Girl wrote: Why didn't Trump have the DOJ investigate the Bidens?


In other words, if the Bidens were so egregiously and openly criminal, why have they not been prosecuted? To which you reply by saying:

"Because <they were so egregiously and openly criminal>".

You are just not making any sense there. Don't you see that? The fact that they have not been prosecuted or investigated in the US is an argument that even Trump does not think that there is the kind of evidence against them that would make charges stick. To that extent, Trump and his officials evidently have a serious disagreement with you.

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honorentheos wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... fell-apart

This is an article from The Guardian from before this became a story in the US. If you read it, I think you'll get a better perspective on what actually happened. Then let's talk.


I read it...and I want to read it again... first it is three years old, and obviously, a lot has happened since then. The charge were dismiss by whom, and how did that work out? The article is three years old.

It shows Joe's Quid quo pro, there is no doubt about that... and it even makes fun of Hunter being involved in the mess of corruption... https://www.theguardian.com/business/sh ... er-burisma

The UK author was even trying to gather more information on the Bidden connection but got no response from them. And implies it is smelly.

With all the corruption in the Ukraine, and all the monies in private banks all over the world, as described in the article... not to mention Hunter's old boss has since fled the country and is living in Monaco, were much dirty money had been sent...I am really not sure what your assertion is based from this article. I see two or more corrupt Ukrainian companies/politicians in a money power grab, for foreign aid monies. And it does not address the prosecutors, that Biden had fired for political reasons in his quid pro quo, side of the story.

Please lay out your assertion/conclusion based on the UK article, and how the Biden's are somehow clean in all this... and a investigation of things like Hunter doing business in the Ukraine (and China) from air force two, White House visits to Joe from associates of Hunter connected with the corruption...is not worthy of an investigation and a source of concern?

thanks for the article, and keep in mind it is just that, as is the book quotes I have give...which both give ample evidence for concern and for a investigation ...are you denying that?
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Chap wrote:
In other words, if the Bidens were so egregiously and openly criminal, why have they not been prosecuted? To which you reply by saying:

"Because <they were so egregiously and openly criminal>".

You are just not making any sense there. Don't you see that? The fact that they have not been prosecuted or investigated in the US is an argument that even Trump does not think that there is the kind of evidence against them that would make charges stick. To that extent, Trump and his officials evidently have a serious disagreement with you.

Do you think you know more than they do?


HUh..LOL...because a criminal in not investigated by their own, they are innocent? When this first came to be... it was under the Obama administration, it was in 2014 or earlier, and many sources, liberal sources, were saying it stunk...read the article Honor pasted as an example. And LOL...Trump, was impeached (and found not guilty) for wanting to investigate the Biden's. The left (mainly Shiff, did you watch any of the trials) fought the notion to not have a trial with Hunter and Joe's under oath testimony. Do you have any idea what you are talking about? Classic Chap!

Chap, Obama and his confederates did not investigate it, in that they may have even been part of it...who knows...but it is now coming to light, and senators are starting to even look into it more. This is not even close to being over.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
MissTish wrote:Markk-


Why didn't Trump have the DOJ investigate the Bidens?


Also, why did he finally release the Ukraine aid?


We'll give Markk another crack at this since he goldfished the “F” out his answer to you.

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We'll try one more time. Hopefully Markk has a better reason than bEcAUse ThEy ArE guILtY!

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Right after Trump’s acquittal, Republicans in the Senate announced investigations in Hunter Biden. Now the Treasury dept. is handing over his and his associates financial records over. The same dept. that has been breaking the law to avoid handing Trump’s tax returns to Congress.

I don’t want to discourage anyone from voting, but the country is screwed guys.
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Markk wrote:
Chap wrote:
In other words, if the Bidens were so egregiously and openly criminal, why have they not been prosecuted? To which you reply by saying:

"Because <they were so egregiously and openly criminal>".

You are just not making any sense there. Don't you see that? The fact that they have not been prosecuted or investigated in the US is an argument that even Trump does not think that there is the kind of evidence against them that would make charges stick. To that extent, Trump and his officials evidently have a serious disagreement with you.

Do you think you know more than they do?


HUh..LOL...because a criminal in not investigated by their own, they are innocent?


No.


But once again, I must ask my question that you are avoiding answering: WHY DIDN"T Trump HAVE THE DOJ INVESTIGATE THE BIDENS?
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Hey EA

You claim to somehow understand politics and politicians, and you just now figured this out? Say what you will about Bill O'Reilly, much deserved, but, "The Spin Zone" hits the nail on the head. That is what they do

They are all liars EA, most would sell their mother for the right price...but, we are blessed with the best system in that the checks and balances keep us going, and standing up for what your party offers up from a ideological point of view is what matters in my opinion, if you get off of that and start trusting any individual, or putting them up on a throne, you will be let down.

But hey you are on the road to recovery, admitting the problem, and no longer denying this is the first step :)
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EAllusion wrote:Right after Trump’s acquittal, Republicans in the Senate announced investigations in Hunter Biden. Now the Treasury dept. is handing over his and his associates financial records over. The same dept. that has been breaking the law to avoid handing Trump’s tax returns to Congress.

I don’t want to discourage anyone from voting, but the country is screwed guys.



Now we enter the show trial phase. Right now there are banana republics in Central Africa looking at us like 'Hey, WTF are you guys doing?'
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Markk wrote:Hey EA

You claim to somehow understand politics and politicians, and you just now figured this out? Say what you will about Bill O'Reilly, much deserved, but, "The Spin Zone" hits the nail on the head. That is what they do

They are all liars EA, most would sell their mother for the right price...but, we are blessed with the best system in that the checks and balances keep us going,


Not for long.

Markk wrote: standing up for what your party offers up from a ideological point of view is what matters in my opinion, if you get off of that and start trusting any individual, or putting them up on a throne, you will be let down.


You're absolutely murdering irony here.
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