Palin's Speech: What do you think?

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dartagnan wrote:And then try reading one of the articles written by [black] columnists, if you can make it through half a paragraph without feeling the need to break out a dictionary on ghetto slang.



Don't you realize what you are saying? Do you even try and disguise your racism in public?
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dartagnan wrote:
"Treason" "Abomination" "He's an Arab"

Oh trust me, you don't want to play that card. Tarski tried it and he was silenced with a little dose of reality.

LOL

Oh yeah, I'm certain Tarski was just trembling in his boots in awe of your "arguments." It's more likely he grimaced through your next post and thought, "Why the hell did I bother with this dildo again?" and walked away.

I know it's redundant for me to say it, but I just can't help myself; you are an unmitigated moron. I have to laugh at you to prevent myself from sinking into the despair of the realization that there are people that stupid out in the world. So...

LMAO
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The ignorant bomb throwers protest with nothing of substance.

Gee, what a shocker.

Tarski proved it was he who was the bigot for voting for Obama because he doesn't like religious people. He also looked foolish for suggesting it was the GOP who created a militant group of extremists. That's laughable. He's been stuck in the Ivory Tower too long to notice what his side has been doing. EIther that or he's missing teh forrest due to the trees. He does have liberal hippie radicals from the 60's dominating, and terrorists like Bill Ayers working in his field, after all. I wonder how many posters of Che Guvara are on Tarski's wall.

I don't pretend to know the answers to the depression amongst the black communities, but I do have a better grasp on the causes than the likes of beastie and other race-baiters who don't have teh intellectual courage to accept the obvious.

This is another sickness in America. Fear of being called a racist has resulted in intellectual negligence.
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This is utterly fascinating sophistry. Slavery was an accepted institution since the beginning of human civilization across virtually all known cultures, and it was only when the Declaration and Constitution created a massive cognitive and moral dissonance in American society that slavery became a live issue and began to be challenged. Unlike sexually molesting one's own children, it wasn't considered evil, for the most part, until a body of principles arose against which it could be contrasted.

You are a victim of the postmodern world Beastie, a pathetic, besotted, but willing victim.


So tell me, would God "damn" slavery, despite the fact that it was an accepted institution since the beginning of human civilization?

Is God's morality relative to the morality of the culture of the given time period?
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dartagnan wrote:
I don't pretend to know the answers to the depression amongst the black communities, but I do have a better grasp on the causes than the likes of beastie and other race-baiters who don't have the intellectual courage to accept the obvious.

This is another sickness in America. Fear of being called a racist has resulted in intellectual negligence.


There is nothing courageous about you being a racist on this discussion board. It's quite contemptible.

The fact that you are apparently in denial about this is even more shocking.
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One more quick point - educational difficulties are strongly correlated with economic status, not race.

Believe it or not, there are plenty of white folks in lower economic strata, and their children struggle as well, too. And they listen to country music. We all know country music really loves God, patriotism, and family.
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You're just a stupid kid who gets gets off thinking he's standing up for the black man. Calling me a racist isn't an argument. You don't have the background knowledge to engage the subject at hand, so just sit back with your slurs, OK?
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You're just an old loser who gets off on Sarah Palin speaking in tongues.

Calling me a racist isn't an argument.


Uh... no crap. Neither is: "Well, Bill Cosby said it!"

You don't have the background knowledge to engage the subject at hand, so just sit back with your slurs, OK?



I live in Los damned Angeles, dip crap. I'm a minority here. I personally know more black people than you know right wing Christian blogs. I happen to like hip hop music.

I have plenty of "background" to engage your stupid, phony ass. You don't have to be a certain age to recognize a racist bigot when you see one.

You, on the other hand, are an uncultured, racist bumpkin. Virtually everyone on this message board thinks you are a tool and a loser.

You have no idea what rap music is, what the black community is, or what a worth while thought feels like.

If you were anywhere near California, I'd bitch slap you on behalf of "the black man."
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You're just an old loser who gets off on Sarah Palin speaking in tongues.


She doesn't speak in tongues. But you're not interested in facts are you?

I live in Los f*****g Angeles, dip s***. I'm a minority here. I personally know more black people than you know right wing Christian blogs. I happen to like hip hop music.


Well this explains plenty. But you don't know more black people than I do. You haven't been in the homes of as many black families as I have. Not even close. Trust me. You're an amatuer on this subject. Liking gangster rap doesn't make you an expert.

I have plenty of "background" to engage your stupid, phony ass.


No you don't. You're just a stupid, young, impressionable kid who thinks he's bad because he smokes and likes gangster rap.

You don't have to be a certain age to recognize a racist bigot when you see one.


But you do need to be a certain age to understand what the word means. You're too much of an infant on this subject.

You, on the other hand, are an uncultured, racist bumpkin. Virtually everyone on this message board thinks you are a tool and a loser.


And I take that as a compliment, given the company we're in. To say I'm uncultured is pretty darn funny too. I've lived in more countries than you have cities.

You have no idea what rap music is, what the black community is, or what a worth while thought feels like.


Oh, is this where you go defending gangster rap as a form of "expression" that we're supposed to value in our society? Yeah, it has done wonders for America, right? Just go take a nap on your Notorious B.I.G bedsheets?

If you were anywhere near California, I'd bitch slap you on behalf of "the black man."


Well, I will be out there in March.
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One more quick point - educational difficulties are strongly correlated with economic status, not race.

It depends on what is meant by "educational difficulties." The opportunity for education is there, the problem is getting poorer families interested. Poorer families tend to be more depressed. Education isn't a high priority for them. Frequently the poorer children are raised by single parents who either live off welfare and are prone to alcholism, tobacco or drugs, as a way to numb themselves from their condition, or they are raised by a single parent who works crazy hours making minimum wage. In either case, it is difficult for proper parenting to occur when living in those conditions.
Believe it or not, there are plenty of white folks in lower economic strata, and their children struggle as well, too. And they listen to country music. We all know country music really loves God, patriotism, and family.

And I can't think of a single country singer who is a former or even a current street gangster. Most of them do the cowboy/cowgirl thing. Love their family, God, country, hunting, living for themselves, etc. Again, just another economic advantage that religion provides society. But come to think of it, I can't think of a single country singer who has been shot or killed in a gang war. I was born in Alabama and I have family back there, so I know what kind of lax environment it really is. Many people there are poor but they are also content just to live in trailer parks, go hunt their own food, attend church on sundays and work odd jobs in construction.

My relatives in school grew up listening to more Def Leppard and U2 than country music. But the rowdy rednecks aren't influenced by Vince Gill, Travis Tritt and Faith Hill in the way black kids are influenced by 50 cent and Puff Daddy. Unfortunately, poorer white children are more likely to be influenced by the gangster rappers as well. Gangster rap celebrates crime, the debasement of women, the use of drugs, etc. It has gotten to the point where kids but the CDs just so they can read the lyrics to see how "cool" they are. None of these rappers are popular because they can really "sing," instead they are worshipped for the messages they provide the kids. The girls want to be "hos" and the boys want to be "pimps."

We generally don't hear of gang wars in rival trailer parks among dirt road, redneck gangsters. Poorer white kids have a much higher chance of seeing their 20th birthday, than do poorer black kids. Poorer white kids have a much higher chance of being raised by both a father and a mother, than do poorer black kids. But among poorer children who manage to graduate High School, the black student is more likely to get accepted into a college, and what's more, he's more likely to qualify for financial aid. But generally speaking, they don't take advantage of that opportunity.

There are also poorer kids who go to college on full ride atheletic scholarships. And after four years of college, it is embarrassing to hear them speak. Half of the NFL appears illiterate even though most finished college. What teh hell were they doing in school? They were not taking it seriously, they were only using it the same way the school was using them. Sad.
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