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Re: Problems with the board

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Icarus wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:33 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:20 pm


Show me where another poster attempted to "out" you on the recent thread where you attempted to post in real life three times in succession in less than a week's time. Go ahead. Bump up that thread and show me. Copy the post where the exchanges initiated. I'm happy to view them.

I have no issue admitting if I am wrong. So show me.
There was no "attempt" to out me. He mentioned my real name in consecutive posts, for no apparent reason other than boredom. It was only after I mentioned his name, and your subsequent conniption fit, that he went back and edited my name from his posts.

How can you pretend to be ignorant here? I told you in that same thread that I'd be happy to edit out his name as soon as he edited out my name from his previous posts. He removed my name from his posts, and so I removed his name just as I said I would. Hence, what I did worked as intended. It was the only thing that could have been done too, as the mods had no power to edit anything.
You are mistaken. I'm not talking about where your name was posted. That happened previously.

I'm talking about the incidents that happened in less than a week ago.
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Re: Problems with the board

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Separating this part out.
Hence, what I did worked as intended. It was the only thing that could have been done too, as the mods had no power to edit anything.
Okay and when did the mods acquire the ability to edit from within from those earlier events that you speak of?

The mods DO have the ability to post in red font a separate post here. Do you think mods are receiving reports or is that broken as well?
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Re: Problems with the board

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Icarus wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:36 pm
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:26 pm
EAllusion isn't HERE. He hasn't been here for 2 months now.

Hence, my offer to compensate him. I value his presence that much.
Do you have a way to get him back here, then?
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Re: Problems with the board

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:26 pm
Icarus wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:42 pm


As such, I'd definitely make the following changes:

Rule #1: No attacking family members - no exceptions
Rule #2: No outing of any participants' in real life identity - no exceptions
Those already exist.
First time offenders will be suspended for three months. Second time offenders, banned permanently.

If these two rules had already been in effect here, all of the drama that has transpired over the past couple of years would have been easily avoided.
They already exist
Rules existing doesn’t mean they are applied.
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Re: Problems with the board

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Lemmie wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:49 pm
Really? The person who called a family member of mine racist multiple times last year was never suspended, and although the references were removed each time I directly requested it, I was eventually informed that it was “my fault” for posting an in real life detail. Even though every other poster here has done similarly over the years. :rolleyes: It’s too facile to just argue rules “already exist.”
I recall that incident. That could have been me who made that comment to you, though I'm not certain. This is why I say it could have been me who made that remark. I originally came from a board where there were no rules. If a poster posted their own in real life, it was considered "on the table" and thus, fair game. On this board, the rule does exist. I've seen it acted upon. If this board ever gets fixed, I would suggest revising that rule but if I am not mistaken, it already states no attacks on family members?

I'll go take a look at it now which I should have done before posting this reply.
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Here I'm just copying the whole darn set of rules so we all have eyes on it at the same time. I'll bold up the one that applies to the incident that Lemmie has mentioned.

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Re: Problems with the board

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:41 pm
Separating this part out.
Hence, what I did worked as intended. It was the only thing that could have been done too, as the mods had no power to edit anything.
Okay and when did the mods acquire the ability to edit from within from those earlier events that you speak of?

The mods DO have the ability to post in red font a separate post here. Do you think mods are receiving reports or is that broken as well?
Shades told me he can't edit anything. Several other people have told me their requests for mod support have been pending for a while, and Lemmie just mentioned having the same problem. There was no reason for me to believe I would get this resolved any other way than to offer him a quick reminder that I can jab right back just as he did. You asked for the thread, it took me a while to find it because it was pushed all the way down the page. http://mormondiscussions.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=53752

My name was subsequently edited out of his posts after I explained on page two that is what was required before I edited mine. His original posting is retained in subgenius' quotation of it.
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So Lemmie, I do see that as applying to the exchanges where your son was called a "racist". I believe I know which poster did that. They were out of line and in violation of board rules.

If Shades or another moderator told you that it was your fault. He, too, was wrong. In my view...
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Re: Problems with the board

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:42 pm
Icarus wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:36 pm
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Hence, my offer to compensate him. I value his presence that much.
Do you have a way to get him back here, then?
No, but I figured he'd eventually show up at some point. He's disappeared before, but not for quite this long.
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Re: Problems with the board

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Icarus wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:14 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:41 pm
Separating this part out.



Okay and when did the mods acquire the ability to edit from within from those earlier events that you speak of?

The mods DO have the ability to post in red font a separate post here. Do you think mods are receiving reports or is that broken as well?
Shades told me he can't edit anything. Several other people have told me their requests for mod support have been pending for a while, and Lemmie just mentioned having the same problem. There was no reason for me to believe I would get this resolved any other way than to offer him a quick reminder that I can jab right back just as he did. You asked for the thread, it took me a while to find it because it was pushed all the way down the page. http://mormondiscussions.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=53752

My name was subsequently edited out of his posts after I explained on page two that is what was required before I edited mine. His original posting is retained in subgenius' quotation of it.
That's not the thread I was referring to. I thought I had made that pretty clear.

I'll try again.

The thread and exchanges I am referring to, took place just this past week. I saw you attempt to post in real life and I didn't see that you were reciprocating for it having been done to you first.

I then saw you attempt to connect an old screen name to the same person. Again. I saw no corresponding provocation coming from that particular poster.

Let me say this in a more straightforward way. As I read the rules, it doesn't matter if the information you posted is accurate or not (because how would any of us know unless we know?) it's the attempt that violates the rules.
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