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Re: Eff the DNC

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Dr. Shades wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:51 pm
Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:06 pm
I mean, you might argue, What difference does it make? but I think having a say is better than not. Maybe that's just me.
I DO have a say. Why would you think otherwise?
If your choice is, I'll let others decide, I suppose technically you have a say, which is to say nothing.

Or perhaps more accurately, you're asking for the tickle-me-with-a-feather torture, and when they come in with the electrodes, you'll say, "This isn't what I asked for!"

And they'll say, "Yeah, people keep thinking if they ask for something other than the two options, it'll make a difference. What's the definition of insanity again?"
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Kishkumen wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:11 pm
Dr. Shades wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:03 pm
He's been elected to public office just as many times as George Washington was elected to public office (prior to becoming president).
I hope you recognize that it takes different talents to lead a small startup than it does to guide the helm of a Fortune 100 corporation.
By that metric, you'll be voting for Donald Trump.
George Washington? :roll:
Did George Washington lack governmental experience prior to becoming President, or didn't he?
Complex institutions require people who understand them to run them. Successful political action in a republic requires social connections and compromises. People who do not appreciate any of the above want quick, easy solutions that do not exist.
Of course they don't exist. But if you don't vote for the highest principles, then you're voting for the status quo.
Voting for Trump is to seek quick, easy solutions that do not exist. Voting for candidates who have no real experience of statesmanship is a token of the same failure of understanding.
Donald Trump has four years of experience being President of the United States. Therefore, according to you, Donald Trump is more qualified to be president than Barack Obama was when he was sworn into office.
Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:44 pm
Dr. Shades wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:51 pm
I DO have a say. Why would you think otherwise?
If your choice is, I'll let others decide, I suppose technically you have a say, which is to say nothing.
Where did I say I would let others decide?

But perhaps you have a point: Some Schmo's chances of getting struck and killed by lightning on the way to polls are exponentially higher than his vote having the slightest impact on the election, so Some Schmo is letting others decide, too.
Or perhaps more accurately, you're asking for the tickle-me-with-a-feather torture, and when they come in with the electrodes, you'll say, "This isn't what I asked for!"
I have no idea what you're getting at.
And they'll say, "Yeah, people keep thinking if they ask for something other than the two options, it'll make a difference. What's the definition of insanity again?"
So one should only vote for a candidate who has a chance of winning. Therefore, since Joe Biden no longer has any chance of winning, you'll clearly be voting for Donald Trump.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 2:05 pm
So one should only vote for a candidate who has a chance of winning. Therefore, since Joe Biden no longer has any chance of winning, you'll clearly be voting for Donald Trump.
Well that's just dumb. Beneath you, Shades.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 2:12 pm
Dr. Shades wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 2:05 pm
So one should only vote for a candidate who has a chance of winning. Therefore, since Joe Biden no longer has any chance of winning, you'll clearly be voting for Donald Trump.
Well that's just dumb. Beneath you, Shades.
Is that not the essence of your entire point?
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 2:39 pm
Some Schmo wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 2:12 pm
Well that's just dumb. Beneath you, Shades.
Is that not the essence of your entire point?
Obviously not. The premise that Biden has no chance to win is outrageous and not worth taking seriously.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 2:05 pm
By that metric, you'll be voting for Donald Trump.
You do know what an analogy is I am hoping.
Did George Washington lack governmental experience prior to becoming President, or didn't he?
Actually, he had governmental experience in the Virginia provincial legislature. Look it up.
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Sanders seems to agree. Yeah, he can't talk but he is the guy.

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Binger wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:02 pm
Sanders seems to agree. Yeah, he can't talk but he is the guy.

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And he’s the best candidate running this cycle. Much better than that buffoon running on the Trump Party ticket.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 8:15 pm
And he’s the best candidate running this cycle. Much better than that buffoon running on the Trump Party ticket.
A big AMEN to that! by the way, have you had a chance to look at the links I provided to Sheldon Whitehouse? If so, what do you think of him?
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:03 pm
Kishkumen wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:56 pm
So, you will cast your vote for Chase Oliver, a former restauranteur who has never been elected to public office once.
He's been elected to public office just as many times as George Washington was elected to public office (prior to becoming president).
Shades, not that it matters, but you’re dead wrong on your history. Just off the top of my head, I seem to remember reading that Washington was elected to the House of Burgess, as a delegate to the Continental Congress, elected by Congress as Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army, and as a delegate to the Constitutional Convention. He had an active political life before the presidency.

You should have gone with Grant or Eisenhower (though there is a fair amount of politics to commanding an army).
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