Ukraine Gate...Impeachment thread 2

[_Markk]

Right. All of the experience that Doc mentioned doesn’t count, because Hunter Biden “doesn’t speak Ukrainian”.

All he did was butcher an article...and nothing he wrote remotely qualifies his resume in any detail, and leaves out the negative of his potential earning power.

Maybe you mean that we should investigate the past owner of Burisma? You’re only talking about that fellow.

Mykola Zlochevsky still owns Burisma...it is noot a Ukrainian company, it has a LLC in Cypress and he runs it from Monaco.

from Wiki
In 2002, he co-founded the largest independent oil and natural gas company Burisma Holdings with Ukrainian businessman Mykola Lisin [uk].[5][6] Through his sole ownership of Cyprus-registered Burisma Holdings, he owns the Ukrainian gas and oil producers Aldea, Pari, Esko-Pivnich, and the First Ukrainian Petroleum Company and the investment group Brociti Investments

Regarding the board itself - A lot of folks are on that board, including another US citizen who’s an ex-CIA employee, who also has no experience in natural gas, can’t speak Ukrainian, and is being paid. You don’t seem at interested in looking into that fellow. I wonder why. ; )

How many have VP fathers that are charged with handing out 2 billion in aid and rooting out corruption? Focus on what happend can pakes...another weak straw-man that just blew down.

In fact, you’ve provided no reason to ‘investigate’ any of them.

Well, the DoJ, and the Senate disagrees, along with millions of others.

So please tell me why your interest is in Biden alone. Compare and contrast to other board members.

Because his father was VP and possibly corrupt, and his father is running for President...which if dirty we need to know, if not, we need to know. And if Hunter is dirty, not only in the Ukraine and china...we need to know how and if it ties to his father.

You are desperate for any reason not to investigate this...why? You said you lean right (LOL)...do you have a problem with finding him innocent and clearing his name? What are you afraid of finding?

[_Markk]

It isn't worth my time anymore, but it's frustrating to see you make the same arguments over and over based on innuendo and supposition while ignoring actual evidence.

Nonsense Honor


Open up the timeline and defend it then, but add the negatives that hurt Biden in the time line also.

Show me how the time line makes my arguments and assertions non valid?

My assertion with your time line is that when I add to it, it destroys the predetermined "talking point."

[_Jersey Girl]

LOL... intentionally or not, you are just lying, and a self admitted troll, that ducks real questions and real evidences. And can only mine out weak straw-mam questions, and then troll them.

Really? I got the last 30 pages of this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=52620

that says you're projecting.

Focus, indeed.

[_Jersey Girl]

It isn't worth my time anymore, but it's frustrating to see you make the same arguments over and over based on innuendo and supposition while ignoring actual evidence.

Nonsense Honor


Open up the timeline and defend it then, but add the negatives that hurt Biden in the time line also.

Show me how the time line makes my arguments and assertions non valid?

My assertion with your time line is that when I add to it, it destroys the predetermined "talking point."

Didja notice the part where he says it's not worth his time?

Your continued attempts to seek validation so noted.

[_canpakes]

You are desperate for any reason not to investigate this...why? You said you lean right (LOL)...do you have a problem with finding him innocent and clearing his name? What are you afraid of finding?

I’m not desperate for anything except an unlimited source of free pizza. Come to think of it, I’m not even desperate for that. It would just be a nice thing to have.

Another nice thing to have would be some sort of fact or data that gave confidence to the accusation of someone being corrupt, as opposed to your criteria of needing to investigate someone because “they could be corrupt”.

Your criteria, in this case, is based on nothing other than whim and political convenience.

Otherwise, please refer back to anything in your rambling posts that points to a corrupt thing that Hunter did.

Being hired by someone who was corrupt won’t do it. That standard couldn’t hold if we look at every employee of Burisma. It wouldn’t even hold if I look stateside at Jared Kushner’s company.

You need to acknowledge your incredible partisan selectivity, along with familiarizing yourself with how due process works in the United States of America. We don’t live in a banana republic or two-bit dictatorship, no matter how much you long for that, to serve your own partisan self-interest.

[_canpakes]

Oh, by the way, Markk -

Markk, why are you still bitching about Hunter Biden’s pay if you aren’t implying that it indicates corruption?

Both of these statements from you are on this same page. Are you even aware of whatever your argument is, at this point?

LOL...Focus, I am not bitching at all. I pointed out you are a liar for saying that his salary alone, of it's self, indicates corruption. Given along with his being over compensated...

Here’s your ‘liar’s test’ -

Why do you keep mentioning Biden’s compensation?

[_Markk]

Really? I got the last 30 pages of this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=52620

that says you're projecting.

Focus, indeed.

In other words you believe the other 60 pages were directions for you on how to find the impeachment trial on TV?

If that was truly the reality of this thread, we might need another 60 pages for you to find it.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

[_Markk]

Didja notice the part where he says it's not worth his time?

Your continued attempts to seek validation so noted.

As is you trolling, and parroting others. But what funny is that when I think about the time wasted on this forum by everyone, and thing that I could have accomplished otherwise...there is a lot of general wisdom is his post. But I enjoy writing my posts in the morning while I drink my coffee, even if it is not worth my time, most the time.

[_Markk]

You are desperate for any reason not to investigate this...why? You said you lean right (LOL)...do you have a problem with finding him innocent and clearing his name? What are you afraid of finding?

I’m not desperate for anything except an unlimited source of free pizza. Come to think of it, I’m not even desperate for that. It would just be a nice thing to have.

Another nice thing to have would be some sort of fact or data that gave confidence to the accusation of someone being corrupt, as opposed to your criteria of needing to investigate someone because “they could be corrupt”.

Your criteria, in this case, is based on nothing other than whim and political convenience.

Otherwise, please refer back to anything in your rambling posts that points to a corrupt thing that Hunter did.

Being hired by someone who was corrupt won’t do it. That standard couldn’t hold if we look at every employee of Burisma. It wouldn’t even hold if I look stateside at Jared Kushner’s company.

You need to acknowledge your incredible partisan selectivity, along with familiarizing yourself with how due process works in the United States of America. We don’t live in a banana republic or two-bit dictatorship, no matter how much you long for that, to serve your own partisan self-interest.

You say I am rambling, read your post... Pizza to Kushner

Again you created a straw-man by saying..."Being hired by someone who was corrupt won’t do it".

When the facts are....

Fact..."Hunter and Archer were hired by a known corrupt company (Burisma).

Fact...Burisma's owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, had deep Russian tie, and often accused of corruption, even as a goverment official under a very corrupt President, who has since fled to Russia. (Mykola Zlochevsky is now on the run from the Ukraine to avoid prosecution and believed to be living in Monaco.)

Fact...April 15th Hunters and Archer's business received money from Burisma (112K) (at the time Burisma was the second largest Natural gas company in the Ukraine)

Fact... April 16th Archer had a meeting with the VPOTUS at the White House.

Fact...April 21st..Joe Biden landed in the Ukraine to deliver the terms of aid going to the Ukraine's Natural Gas industry.

Fact...April 22nd Archer was hired by Burisma.

Fact... May 13th Hunter was hired to head the legal affairs department of Burisma, according to Burisma.

Fact...All this while the VPOTUS was charged to "root out" corruption in the Ukraine, his son and associates, were employed by a company that was known to be corrupt. That had Russian ties. And that later, the VPOTUS would threaten to withhold funds on the accusation that the General Prosecutor was not rooting out corruption like he should with in his department...even though his own son was working for one of the most corrupt individuals, and past corrupt goverment ministers in the Ukraine."

This is just part of the narrative...but focusing on this as a whole/alone canpakes (I would like to here from EA on this)...do you honestly believe this alone is not enough evidence to draw the concern of US government officials, and enough warrant an investigation?