Biden Takes Georgia; Violence on Horizon

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Re: Biden Takes Georgia; Violence on Horizon

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:08 pm
Sub can't even offer an explanation as to why what he's presented isn't something to be expected.
As usual. This isn’t about explanation or honest inquiry. It’s strictly about injecting doubt regardless of the validity of any claim. It’s an approach steeped in dishonesty, which is typical for subs.
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canpakes wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:31 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:08 pm
Sub can't even offer an explanation as to why what he's presented isn't something to be expected.
As usual. This isn’t about explanation or honest inquiry. It’s strictly about injecting doubt regardless of the validity of any claim. It’s an approach steeped in dishonesty, which is typical for subs.
In other words, subby really is the incorrigible troll which he has often been justly accused of being.
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Gunnar wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:30 pm
canpakes wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:31 pm
As usual. This isn’t about explanation or honest inquiry. It’s strictly about injecting doubt regardless of the validity of any claim. It’s an approach steeped in dishonesty, which is typical for subs.
In other words, subby really is the incorrigible troll which he has often been justly accused of being.
That, or he's dumb enough to believe his own BS. An exceptional level of dumb, I grant you, but it's possible it's real.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:26 pm
Gunnar wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:30 pm

In other words, subby really is the incorrigible troll which he has often been justly accused of being.
That, or he's dumb enough to believe his own BS. An exceptional level of dumb, I grant you, but it's possible it's real.
Ask yourself this one simple question. Does he ever actually engage in discussion or debate?
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:37 pm

Ask yourself this one simple question. Does he ever actually engage in discussion or debate?
Sometimes, for short stretches of time, he drops his subgenius trolling persona and will engage in discussion. I think he's interesting to talk to when he does.
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So, a Republican state official is under pressure to cheat on vote counting to help Donald Trump?

Unexpected? Hmmmm.


Georgia’s Republican secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, told the Washington Post that senator Lindsay Graham of South Carolina was among several members of his party who pressured him to toss out legally cast ballots so that Trump could win the state.

From the Post:
In a wide-ranging interview about the 2020 election, Raffensperger expressed exasperation with a string of baseless allegations coming from Trump and his allies about the integrity of the Georgia results, including claims that Dominion Voting Systems, the Colorado-based manufacturer of Georgia’s voting machines, is a “leftist” company with ties to Venezuela that engineered thousands of Trump votes not to be counted.

The atmosphere has grown so contentious, Raffensperger said, that both he and his wife, Tricia, have received death threats in recent days, including a text to him that read, “You better not botch this recount. Your life depends on it.”

“Other than getting you angry, it’s also very disillusioning,” Raffensperger said of the threats, “particularly when it comes from people on my side of the aisle. Everyone that is working on this needs to elevate their speech. We need to be thoughtful and careful about what we say.” He said he reported the threats to state authorities.

The pressure on Raffensperger, who has bucked his party in defending the state’s voting process, comes as Georgia is in the midst of a laborious hand recount of roughly 5 million ballots. President-elect Joe Biden has a 14,000-vote lead in the initial count.

The normally mild-mannered Raffensperger saved his harshest language for U.S. Rep. Doug Collins (R-Ga.), who is leading the president’s effort to prove fraud in Georgia and whom Raffensperger called a “liar” and a “charlatan.”
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:53 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:37 pm

Ask yourself this one simple question. Does he ever actually engage in discussion or debate?
Sometimes, for short stretches of time, he drops his subgenius trolling persona and will engage in discussion. I think he's interesting to talk to when he does.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
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Asking to investigate further is not the same as calling shenanigans. I appreciate your eloquence in trying to slide to the left, but I am not sure that the difference between noticed and unnoticed is the same as a hyperbolic charge of conspiracy. As stated before, "merits investigation".
For example:
BIDEN ABSENTEE VOTE LEAD IN EACH MIDWEST STATE:
IA – 15.9%
OH – 16.3%
MI – 37.9%
PA – 57.7%
IL – 24.7%
IN – -13.7%

This merits seeking an explanation in this context; and it is reasonable to initially reference the % deviations as "anomaly".
And when you also consider that you are suggesting that Biden outperformed nationally the Democrats' most successful and popular politician; yet underperformed Hillary Clinton in almost every major city - except for a very narrow and limited (almost specific) cities; I think that it is reasonable to look beyond your rather dim nothing-to-see-here analysis.
(See, nowhere did I scream shenanigans).
How much time have you spent looking into these facts before declaring them "anomalies?" What are the sources of your information? Were the counts complete when these numbers were reported. Are there differences between the mail-in ballot requirements in each state? What boundaries were used to define a city? Which major cities were looked at? Did you look at apples to apples comparison between where each person you reference outperformed and underperformed the other? Or are you relying on cherry picked numbers selected specifically because someone wants to cry "SHENANIGANS."?

I already shot down your first "proven statistical anomalies" quite easily. The President of the United States and his supporters have screamed "FRAUD" about every one of them and dozens more based on nothing more than their own ignorance of what should be expected. You get a cookie for using the more subtle technique of doing the same thing (casting unwarranted doubt on the integrity of the process) without raising your voice.

Both of your examples here do not warrant investigation into the integrity of the election. They warrant investigation into context and whether they represent the normal and expected once context is understood. Just like your first four examples.

Here. I'll give you an obvious (but overlooked by you) head start. Indiana did not expand its absentee ballot law, which requires one of several specified excuses to qualify for vote by mail. One of those excuses is age: 65 or older. It's not surprising that traditional absentee ballots leaned for the Republican in a state that voted Republican. https://www.indystar.com/story/news/pol ... 303694001/
So, your rebuttal (again) is this is all "coincidence".
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Does anyone think Trump would sell classified information to U.S. adversaries?
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