Can Our Democracy Survive This?

[_Mayan Elephant]

Let's just say, for the point of argument only, that Maxine is a racist piece of crap on the right and EA and Schmo are racist condescending pieces of crap on the left. Now what? There are still facts and messy and good stuff in the middle.

I think the biggest issue with government and the internet is the ability all parties have to paint other people as something they ain't.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Let's just say, for the point of argument only, that Maxine is a racist piece of **** on the right and EA and Schmo are racist condescending pieces of **** on the left. Now what? There are still facts and messy and good stuff in the middle.

I think the biggest issue with government and the internet is the ability all parties have to paint other people as something they ain't.

I think what a lot of people are missing is who does their government represent? Are we putting people into power that represent our individual, personal interests? We'll never get what we want because it's the way it is, but at the end of the day you're trying to convince the other guy that voting your way is in his best interest.

How you go about doing that is the point of the thread. How you go about doing that effectively and convincingly in this Internet era is the key to power brokering.

- Doc

[_beastie]

Let's just say, for the point of argument only, that Maxine is a racist piece of **** on the right and EA and Schmo are racist condescending pieces of **** on the left. Now what? There are still facts and messy and good stuff in the middle.

I think the biggest issue with government and the internet is the ability all parties have to paint other people as something they ain't.

LOL for the point of argument only.

Ajax is a white supremacist, a regular poster on stormfront. Here's the thread where that all came out, which includes some juicy tidbits.

viewtopic.php?p=997388#p997388

One of his first comments on the linked thread is:

There could be a silver lining to it. I was reading on Breitbart today that some white people are waking up. Is it too little, too late?


Quote:
After watching Obama and Holder for six years, I have come to the conclusion that the only reasonable response to their never ending drumbeat of "racism" in all things, is yes, be a racist and protect yourself. I see now racism is their answer. Without constantly accusing white America of racism, they would have to take responsibility for their utter and complete failure. No matter what the issue, it's all racism all the time. If this is how black people at the top of the food chain view white people, I now understand the complete lack of will to educate and better your self in the black community. Racism is the magic elixir that removes all responsibility. So whether I'm raping, robbing or just playing the knockout game, it's because of whitey, I'm just a black victim of white America and It's okay to see whitey as prey and as the enemy. Yes this definitely makes me look at black people in a whole new light. Thanks Obama and Holder, I am now a racist due to your excellent display of the inner workings of the black racist mind.

The truth about black people is evident to anyone who has to live around them. Some of the worst liberals have been created by being sheltered and not having to witness and suffer what black people do.

or jewels like this:

They won't, but it's ok. No matter what they take from us. They can't take away our European genetics and that's what they really envy but cannot have. Michael Jackson sure tried. As long as we keep our genes pure, that will always be our biggest asset. Remember our ancestors and continue the struggle for white survival. As for myself, me and my wife are going to go and make some white babies. Knowing how bad that ticks off the negroes and the latinos makes it all the better.

The worse the situation gets, the better chance we have of garnishing enough support to carve out a piece of this earth for white people that won't be infected with these moochers. Perhaps if we can acheive this once more our race will learn its lesson and be extra cautious to get these people out of our lives for good.

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t92385 ... st10722647

In my experience the inferior ethics of a black society overshadow even the intellectual differences.

Eye opening cases like this young liberal experienced are good but the truth is that the leading liberals secretly know this. Many liberals are willing to use the black race to try to rule over their white brethren. The blame for the problems caused by out of control negro populations still rests squarely on these liberal members of the white race who use the black race to gain power. The best we can do is try to hold our own disgraceful people accountable and force them to reap the problems that they have sewn with their self righteous anti white policies. If we as a white race could ever correct this aberrant section of our own race and culture, the problems we are subjected to by other races would shrink and the solutions to these problems would come smooth and easy. I think the best medicine is truly experience. Perhaps the liberals are unintentionally doing us a favor by integrating our schools. I just hope enough white people can figure things out before it becomes eternally too late.

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t689358-2/#post9017972

Here's a real gem, on a thread called "the ONE thing I can't agree with the nazis on"

Opening thread:

is the hatred of slavs, I am not a slav, I am pure aryan but I have very good friends who are ukranian and polish and one is just as strong a w.n. as me and the other is seeing the light. I agree with a lot of things the nazis stood for but this one is pry the hardest to get past, these guys have been good friend if not best friends for a long time and have stayed loyal to me. I guess this is just kind of me venting a little bit of my own interpersonal confrontations I have when trying to adopt the nazi views, do any of you guys have this problem?

ajax helpfully replied:

Amen to that. I'm American of British Isle descent and my wife is Russian. Russians don't get any special favors in this country either. My ancestors made a big mistake in bringing Africans to this continent and my people are making even more mistakes letting these rabbit breeding Latinos in. Let's stand up together and take our world back.

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t549593/#post6210948

I'll finish with this, not because there isn't more, but because my stomach can't handle more:

I have noticed a trend in self discipline and morality as I've looked at intelligence in different races. For example, I don't really think a black man's intelligence is the biggest thing holding him back. I think they're generally just less scrupulous and prone to immoral behavior. In Africa it seems like they kill each other for sport.

I've noticed that Chinese people place a high value on not disgracing their family with immoral behavior. Black people take the approach of trying to force the world not judge them based on what many black people do, rather than motivating other black people to not disgrace their race.

How are American Indians different from Asians in this regard of intelligence and morality? Where would you rank the Arabs and Asian Indians? Are the Arabs somehow akin to a stepping stone in evolution between negroid and caucasoid? What racial group are Arabs and Persians anyway?

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t492882/#post5499879

I am so sick of this false equivalence bullcrap being shoved at us.

Yeah, maybe if you're an uneducated dolt afraid of big words EA looks condescending. Or maybe if you're someone who's bought into this new political correctness which demands that we refuse to admit that some positions are ignorant and contrary to plain facts he looks condescending. So, yeah, mabye some people feel like he condescends to them. A matter of opinion, I suppose.

But there is no pretending that ajax isn't an unrepentant racist. Just like there's no pretending that people like him aren't THRILLED with Trump.

So, as seductive and appealing as it is to pretend that this is all just a case of biased people painting each other as something they're not, the truth is that sometimes people just are what they're painted to be. And sometimes that is something that rightfully should be considered.

Ok, back to the thread. Just had to get that off my chest.

[_Chap]

EA and Schmo are racist condescending pieces of **** on the left.

I am so sick of this false equivalence bullcrap being shoved at us.

Yeah, maybe if you're an uneducated dolt afraid of big words EA looks condescending. Or maybe if you're someone who's bought into this new political correctness which demands that we refuse to admit that some positions are ignorant and contrary to plain facts he looks condescending. So, yeah, mabye some people feel like he condescends to them. A matter of opinion, I suppose.

Yup. People who find EA condescending seem to think that ignorant and prejudiced people should be treated as if they are some kind of endangered minority in need of protection. But they are the ones who now have their representative on the way to the White House ...

[_MissTish]

Reading Ajax' nazi fantasies never gets any less nauseating.

My personal favorite is:

Coming here really does feel like coming home. I view all of you as family.
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/showth ... stcount=16

If you're part of a clan of cousin idiots then maybe Stormfront does feel like family...

[_The CCC]

Truly deplorable.

[_Mayan Elephant]

Yup. People who find EA condescending seem to think that ignorant and prejudiced people should be treated as if they are some kind of endangered minority in need of protection. But they are the ones who now have their representative on the way to the White House ...

That's not accurate.

I find EA and Schmo very condescending and also very cultish. I don't think prejudiced people are endangered or need protection. Nor do I think that about ignorant people. I also don't think the ignorant or prejudiced all are the same and I don't think all non-ignorant or non-prejudiced people voted for Hillary.

I think your comment is stupid. It doesn't hold up to the most basic scrutiny.

[_beastie]

That's not accurate.

I find EA and Schmo very condescending and also very cultish.

Are they part of the same cult?

I don't think prejudiced people are endangered or need protection. Nor do I think that about ignorant people. I also don't think the ignorant or prejudiced all are the same and I don't think all non-ignorant or non-prejudiced people voted for Hillary.

I think your comment is stupid. It doesn't hold up to the most basic scrutiny.

Your posts drip with condescension. But I think it's a shtick, whether you're talking about how stupid people are who like John Dehlin because you're above the fray and know the truth, or whether you're talking about how stupid people are in their reactions to Trump's election because you're above the fray and know the truth. You're above partisanship. You're above it all.

Actually, I suspect you're just a contrarian who has convinced himself that's how to act smart.

And, by the way, I haven't seen anyone argue that "the ignorant and prejudiced are all the same and all non-ignorant or non-prejudiced people voted for Hillary". But knock yourself out showing how superior you are to those imaginary claims.

[_Chap]

I see that beastie has written a reply that makes it unnecessary for me to add to it.

[_EAllusion]

I'm curious where the charge of racist comes from. It's so out of left-field I'm not even sure which group it is I supposedly have a problem of racism with. It seems like it was just picked because I attack others for racism and therefore must be guilty of the very thing I'm criticizing someone for.