Rittenhouse Trial: Calling Res Ipsa

[Dr Exiled]

You just want to say that there is a possibility that the PTSD diagnosis is wrong in this case.

Again statistically he is probably just fine. Look at the numbers. Psychiatry is really not a science, it is an embarrassment.

You're guessing, but that's fine on discussion boards. I think PTSD is a real phenomenon. The veterans I've represented and other victims are/were definitely suffering from something, post-traumatic event. More information is needed regarding Rittenhouse. He was involved and still is involved in a traumatic event. I think he could be suffering from PTSD. It is a diagnosis dependent on patient testimony and so there is room for mischief.

[Jersey Girl]

So, ptsd is fake? Is that what you’re saying within the context of this thread?

- Doc

No, but it is over-diagnosed in the US.

PTSD is often conflated with normal responses to difficult situations, which has led to increased pressure on services to make this diagnosis.

“The conflation of stress with trauma—and of trauma with PTSD—has become rife. This is the most convincing explanation for overdiagnosis,” they write.

Other factors, such as the role of “compensation culture” and vested interests of the “trauma industry” might also be involved, they say. Alternatively, it may be that psychiatry and society have become more understanding of trauma, and hence more flexible about boundaries for diagnosis and treatment.

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/is ... diagnosed/

Rittenhouse probably isn't suffering from a mental illness at all.

I strongly disagree with you. He was 17 when the violent event happened. He was never treated for trauma following, I guarantee you that he wasn't. And yes, there is treatment that can help tamp down the trauma response---not always successfully---to prevent it from developing a full blown disorder. He was a young man whose brain wasn't fully developed in the first place, he entered a high stress situation that involved him in violent acts against himself and others. That he was forced into fight or flight (life threatening) mode, sets him squarely up for PTSD.

DT I have in real life experience with this. Take it or leave it. That was a full blown PSTD related flash back panic attack. I've seen it in real life. You can choose to say that experience makes me biased and that my comments are based on subjective events, or you might choose to say I know what I'm talking about.

If you happen to think that his post event behavior showed no indication of trauma, as KG has stated himself, you guys clearly don't know what the hell you're talking about.

[Some Schmo]

Who gives a damn if he has PSTD? What does that have to do with whether he should be convicted or not?

He committed a felony. Let the prison shrink treat him if he needs it.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Picture of Ziminski walking around with his illegal firearm he discharged kicking off the violence.



What a piece of garbage arsonist scumbag.

- Doc

[Jersey Girl]

Who gives a damn if he has PSTD? What does that have to do with whether he should be convicted or not?

He committed a felony. Let the prison shrink treat him if he needs it.

Have you watched the trial?

[Jersey Girl]

Who gives a damn if he has PSTD? What does that have to do with whether he should be convicted or not?

He committed a felony. Let the prison shrink treat him if he needs it.

Have you watched the trial?

Woops, an additional question. What felony did he commit?

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

It should be noted that Ziminski and Rosenbaum were purportedly photographed committing arson together (I haven’t seen it), that Rosenbaum threatened to kill Ritters earlier, and then was told to “get him, kill him” by Ziminski - allegedly when the Ritters grabbed a fire extinguisher to put out an arsonist’s fire.

So. Reference his ptsd diagnosis, you have a kid with a kid’s brain and a kid’s reasoning who made a series of bad decisions to land in that spot that night, no competent adult to set him straight, was threatened before and after the shootings, and is on trial for his life, basically. And he’s being threatened with death from all sorts of people.

I gotta say, if ptsd is a real thing, then he’s probably a good candidate for it.

- Doc

[doubtingthomas]

You're guessing, but that's fine on discussion boards. I think PTSD is a real phenomenon. The veterans I've represented and other victims are/were definitely suffering from something, post-traumatic event.

It is real, but not as common as you think. Here is a very interesting article

Over the last five years or so, a long-simmering academic debate over PTSD’s conceptual basis and rate of occurrence has begun to boil over into the practice of trauma psychology and to roil military culture as well... The diagnostic criteria for PTSD, they assert, represent a faulty, outdated construct that has been badly overextended so that it routinely mistakes depression, anxiety, or even normal adjustment for a unique and particularly stubborn ailment.

https://www.wired.com/2012/03/the-ptsd-trap/

More information is needed regarding Rittenhouse.

Yes exactly! And that alone is a reason why we should question the claim that Rittenhouse has PTSD. I do not deny it is possible, but I haven't seen a good reason to make such conclusion.

[Some Schmo]

Have you watched the trial?

Nope. I don't care enough to watch it. Based on what I've heard about the judge, I have my doubts about it being a fair trial anyway.

I still want to know why his alleged PTSD is relevant to the outcome of the trial.

Woops, an additional question. What felony did he commit?

He was a minor carrying a firearm that he discharged killing people. Earlier in the thread, I quoted the Wisconsin law he broke from your post.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Have you watched the trial?

Nope. I don't care enough to watch it. Based on what I've heard about the judge, I have my doubts about it being a fair trial anyway.

I still want to know why his alleged PTSD is relevant to the outcome of the trial.

Woops, an additional question. What felony did he commit?

He was a minor carrying a firearm that he discharged killing people. Earlier in the thread, I quoted the Wisconsin law he broke from your post.

That’s regarding the person who provides the firearm if I’m reading it correctly.

- Doc