Russian Invasion of Ukraine

[Binger]

Okay, shall we take a minute and unpack this? Before I do, were you triggered by me calling panny a dummy? That may have been a problem for you, right?

By the way, isn't it interesting how the suffering of the Ukrainian people is a bunch of fake news and a "propaganda war" for Binger [Part 1] as their entire country is advanced upon by the second largest army in the world [Part 2], but a band of unhinged QAnon truckers [Part 3]who were clogging up a highway over their beliefs [Part 4] in conspiracy theories was the human tragedy of the decade? [Part 5]

This is super interesting, gaddy. This particular piece takes a lot of effort to unpack. We need to be mindful and tedious about it.

Part 1: I have not addressed the suffering of the Ukranian people and I have never said that their suffering was fake news. A propaganda war can exist AND there can also be suffering by the Ukranian people. It is not my belief that subscribing to a propaganda war is a true show of concern. I can be concerned, and also call nonsense on nonsense. It is predictable, though rather bizarre, that you would not agree with this position.

Part 2: Relief. This is something that I believe we agree on. I separated it so it would not confuse lurkers who may not be able to follow your conflations and ranting pretzelish words. (I made up one of those words. I like it.)

Part 3: A band of unhinged QAnon truckers. Here we go again with the trolling and the weirdo crap you say and the way you say it. I get that you are spinning here and struggling with your words and that is fine. But, let's bring this down a notch. I have no damn clue what QAnon does or thinks or who is a member of it. I have no evidence that all the truckers were members of this QAnon. That association is YOUR belief and one that you throw around without any evidence in support of your claim. Maybe you should rewrite your argument in a way that represents your belief that the truckers are part of QAnon, because I have no evidence to make that claim.

Part 4: The truckers did obstruct traffic in a peaceful protest that has since been disbanded. Their request, or condition, for ceasing their protest was not based on their beliefs in this QAnon thing that you believe so much about. In fact, it was about a Vaccine Mandate which is an actual thing, and not just a belief.

Part 5: This one I can't really tell what the hell you are trying to say. I really have no idea. Maybe you think the peaceful protest by the truckers was the human tragedy of the decade. I have no idea and I have read the line and paragraph several times. Maybe you think I think that, but, with the exception of the cops knocking the hell out of few people, I am unaware of "human" tragedies. So, seriously gaddy, you are going to need to clean that part up for us to really talk about what you were drooling.

ETA: Good lord for the sentence. That was all one sentence with a metric crap ton of presupposition, dogma and ideology in it. I am not sure I can goulash like you goulash.

The people of Ottawa just had to let these truckers ruin life for them because the truckers decided to spout off on a bunch of obvious lies indefinitely in the middle of their neighborhood. There was nothing the occupying "truckers" could do wrong. No news about them, no matter how invented could be faulted. So far, for Binger, nothing inflicted upon the Ukrainians merit any sympathy.

This is hard to address really because it is all just a mess of words. "[ S ]pout off on a bunch of lies in the middle of their neighborhood" is great for trolling but I am not sure that this is a good description of things. But, that is not really the point, is it? The point is, since you disagree with me about a protest in Canada, you feel entitled to know my feelings about Ukranians. One thing is for certain - you are entitled to be wrong. And nobody can take that away from you. Happy trolling though. Did you get what you wanted from this?

[Binger]

Nice try at propagating your own disinformation, though.

[canpakes]

Nice try at propagating your own disinformation, though.

You’re a Russian tank? : D

[Binger]

You’re a Russian tank? : D

Option A: panny is obtuse
Option B: panny is trying to be funny, but is not successful
Option C: panny is a troll
Option D: panny is a moderator and a troll, and he will move this comment to Prison

[Morley]

Geez, Russkies. At least don’t make it so obvious.

This tank just went out of its way to roll over a moving passenger vehicle.

https://Twitter.com/lazy_booiiii/status ... 77922?s=10

Hey dummy. That was a Ukranian tank driving over a Ukranian citizen.

Why do you do this? I'm seriously asking, Binger. I don't understand.

[Binger]

Hey dummy. That was a Ukranian tank driving over a Ukranian citizen.

Why do you do this? I'm seriously asking, Binger. I don't understand.

Ask specifically and I will answer specifically.

[Morley]

Why do you do this? I'm seriously asking, Binger. I don't understand.

Ask specifically and I will answer specifically.

I thought it was pretty clear.

Why did you say that was a Ukrainian tank running over a Ukrainian car? Reflexively and without even checking.

[Binger]

Why did you say that was a Ukrainian tank running over a Ukrainian car?

Because, for all you know, and for all I know, it was an out of control Ukranian vehicle. It was out of control more than it was in control.

My point in making the comment was very simple. You do not know who was driving, and neither do I. I have never driven a tank, but I have driven/operated many crawlers and that one was out of control and the collision looked accidental more than deliberate.

It does not take much effort at all to find arguments that this was misrepresented.

https://Twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/sta ... a0ARvHfu8w

[Chap]

How much more trouble does Putin want to get himself into?

EU tightens Russian sanctions and buys weapons for Ukraine

The EU is buying weapons for Ukraine? Sounds like a good idea to me. But the fact this is being done (and it is a big first for the EU) is an alarming sign of how things are looking to serious people in Brussels, who know a lot of things the rest of us don't.

BRUSSELS, Feb 27 (Reuters) - The European Union will tighten sanctions on Russia, target Russian ally Belarus with measures and fund weapons for Ukraine to help it defend itself against Russia's invasion, top EU officials said on Sunday.

"For the first time ever, the European Union will finance the purchase and delivery of weapons and other equipment to a country that is under attack, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said.

She said the European Union would close its airspace to Russian aircraft, including the private jets of Russian oligarchs.

The bloc will ban Russian state-owned television network Russia Today and news agency Sputnik. Von der Leyen said this was to render them unable to "spread their lies to justify Putin's war and to sow division in our Union".

Russia calls its actions in Ukraine a "special operation" that it says is not designed to occupy territory but to destroy its southern neighbour's military capabilities and capture what it regards as dangerous nationalists.

For Russian ally Belarus, the European Union will impose a ban on imports of products from mineral fuels to tobacco, wood and timber, cement, iron and steel.

These come on top of a series of sanctions on Russia already unveiled, such as on its energy sector and the exclusion of certain Russian banks from the SWIFT messaging system that dominates global payments.

The European Union will also finance the purchase and delivery of weapons and other equipment to Ukraine.

"Another taboo has fallen. The taboo that the European Union was not providing arms in a war," EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said in a statement before a meeting of EU foreign ministers.

The bloc aims to spend 450 million euros ($507 million) of EU funds on weapons for Ukraine, a Commission source told Reuters, and a further 50 million euros on items such as medical supplies.

($1 = 0.8875 euros)

[canpakes]

Why did you say that was a Ukrainian tank running over a Ukrainian car?

Because, for all you know, and for all I know, it was an out of control Ukranian vehicle. It was out of control more than it was in control.

My point in making the comment was very simple. You do not know who was driving, and neither do I. I have never driven a tank, but I have driven/operated many crawlers and that one was out of control and the collision looked accidental more than deliberate.

It does not take much effort at all to find arguments that this was misrepresented.

https://Twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/sta ... a0ARvHfu8w

Regardless of which propaganda you personally wish to reject or retweet, it’s pretty obvious that there’s a war going on that Russia didn’t need to start, and folks are dying because of it.