The Great Biden Distraction

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Re: The Great Biden Distraction

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Jun 04, 2025 5:58 am
Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Jun 04, 2025 5:46 am
It's hard to fathom how stupid you have to be to type what you did. You are drowning in orange kool-aid.

Christ, Idiot apologists are stupid. There's no way around it.
Yep. It's thirteen o'clock and he's fixated on Biden. :roll:
Jersey Girl, if, and I say if for argument's sake. If Joe Biden was not calling the shots and giving his permission to auto sign important documents, do you think that the country should just ignore that? Why?
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Markk wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 1:53 am
Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Jun 04, 2025 5:58 am
Yep. It's thirteen o'clock and he's fixated on Biden. :roll:
Jersey Girl, if, and I say if for argument's sake. If Joe Biden was not calling the shots and giving his permission to auto sign important documents, do you think that the country should just ignore that? Why?
Markk, I have no reason not to think that this is an empty fantasy which you are hoping for.
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huckelberry wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 4:59 am
Markk wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 1:53 am
Jersey Girl, if, and I say if for argument's sake. If Joe Biden was not calling the shots and giving his permission to auto sign important documents, do you think that the country should just ignore that? Why?
Markk, I have no reason not to think that this is an empty fantasy which you are hoping for.
The guy using autopen to sign important papers now is a convicted fraudster running memecoin scams between groping incidents. I’ll gladly take the former option. : D
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Jun 04, 2025 11:55 pm
You can't function without having some trust. You'll choose to continue to trust people like Tapper. Good luck with that.
Wow, you don’t read, or you don’t remember what you read. I never told you to trust Jake Tapper. So, save your advice for yourself.
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Markk wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 1:46 am
LOl, It cracks me up when you try to be clever. But your ad hom name calling won't change what has transpired and what is coming to light.
It cracks me up when you get so agitated that you misspell three-letter words.
The left is imploding, both the media and the Democrat Caucus. There is no leader, no plan, and at this point possibly no future if they don't get it together.
It is more accurate to say that a lot of Americans have lost their common sense, and Democrats have not found the smelling salts that will awaken people to their awful situation.

You are one of those deluded folk. You argue in favor of MAGA, which is a lot like a rat arguing for the exterminator.

But I do agree that the Democrats seem to be missing something. It is bizarre that you want to be used and defrauded by the two-bit con you voted for, bafflingly, but there you are. You live to be taken for a ride.
You and some of the others here are imploding, all you have is ad hom responses, and zero objective conversation.
I have yet to see where having an “objective” conversation does any good with you.
Biden was in clear mental decline early on, even before he took office. There was a cover up by the media, and more and more it is becoming clear that there was some sort of clandestine group running the country behind the scenes. How that worked? Hopefully for the country's sake we will find out so it won't happen again.
I don’t see how that was clear at all. He was old. He made mistakes that old men make, particularly ones with a historical speech impediment. I think there was cognitive decline when he was in office, but it really doesn’t concern me that much. The big problem was his insistence on running again.
And what I mean by an objective conversation is.....stop, take a breath, stop the urge to call me a name, or say something about my faith, or blame Trump for something, using it as an excuse for looking at what occurred for the 4 years of the Biden presidency. Ignoring it won't somehow make it go away.
Your faith in Donald Trump? The felon? Who sexually assaults women? Who routinely shows his cognitive decline, poor character, and mental illness on the world stage?

Dude, you insult yourself every day.
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We should talk maniacally about the mental decline of Republican voters. That's the real scandal.

How does one drift so far from reality and common sense to think Biden's faults are in the same ball park as Trump's? Markk thinks we should try to have an "objective" conversation with him about this when he has demonstrated the objectivity of an infant (notoriously known for thinking they are the center of the universe, a feeling Trump never grew out of when he was two years old like normal people do).

It's like saying, "Why can't we have a reasonable conversation about the shape of the Earth? Why do you have to insult me when I say it's obviously flat?"

Again, you can't have a serious conversation with people who believe unreasonable and easily disprovable ideas. Trump fans will never understand that simple concept. They don't want a conversation anyway. They want to yell their assertions until everyone agrees out of fatigue. They aren't open to facts in conflict with their own opinions.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 2:29 pm
We should talk maniacally about the mental decline of Republican voters. That's the real scandal.

How does one drift so far from reality and common sense to think Biden's faults are in the same ball park as Trump's?
Rush F*****g Limbaugh. I think he is uniquely responsible for the way voters on the right think of themselves as a team and will circle the wagons around their own, no matter how despicable their actions. That soulless ghoul was paid very handsomely to make people hate Democrats, no matter the context. Thank heavens he is dead and rotting.
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Molok wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 2:48 pm
Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 2:29 pm
We should talk maniacally about the mental decline of Republican voters. That's the real scandal.

How does one drift so far from reality and common sense to think Biden's faults are in the same ball park as Trump's?
Rush F*****g Limbaugh. I think he is uniquely responsible for the way voters on the right think of themselves as a team and will circle the wagons around their own, no matter how despicable their actions. That soulless ghoul was paid very handsomely to make people hate Democrats, no matter the context. Thank heavens he is dead and rotting.
Yeah, he and Newt Gingrich are among the original ghouls to help divide this country.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 3:03 pm
Molok wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 2:48 pm
Rush F*****g Limbaugh. I think he is uniquely responsible for the way voters on the right think of themselves as a team and will circle the wagons around their own, no matter how despicable their actions. That soulless ghoul was paid very handsomely to make people hate Democrats, no matter the context. Thank heavens he is dead and rotting.
Yeah, he and Newt Gingrich are among the original ghouls to help divide this country.
I agree--especially about Limbaugh. His diatribes reeked with racial, religious and other kinds of bigotry (despite his denials to the contrary). I read both of his books, The Way Things Ought to Be and See, I Told You So, and both of them demonstrated his profound ignorance and disdain for science and how Democracy ought to work. He managed to make some good points, though. For example: he was right about the fact that nuclear power plants are in most ways far less polluting than fossil fuel power plants, especially coal fired power plants, particularly in the number of radioactive particles and isotopes they emit into the atmosphere. Coal plants actually spew greater amounts of dangerous radioactive nuclides into the air in their smoke than do nuclear powerplants, which emit no smoke at all. These nuclides include radioactive heavy metal isotopes that naturally contaminate coal seams, wherever they are buried in the ground. This was documented by Dixie Lee Ray, one of Rush's heroines, whom Rush often quoted. And, of course, nuclear plants don't emit greenhouse gases such as methane and CO2.
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Re: The Great Biden Distraction

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Kishkumen wrote:It is more accurate to say that a lot of Americans have lost their common sense, and Democrats have not found the smelling salts that will awaken people to their awful situation.

You are one of those deluded folk. You argue in favor of MAGA, which is a lot like a rat arguing for the exterminator.

But I do agree that the Democrats seem to be missing something. It is bizarre that you want to be used and defrauded by the two-bit con you voted for, bafflingly, but there you are. You live to be taken for a ride.
The democrats have no leader, no plan, and no vision beyond hating Trump and hating people like me because I support the general plan and vision of the GOP and MAGA.

Most of the left that I talk to or listen to and watch on their platforms, are lost and really don't know how to deal with their current position they find themselves in, because in my opinion they have no leader, no plan, and no vison....they seem to just rally around their hate for Trump and those that support his presidency.
Kishkumen wrote:I don’t see how that was clear at all. He was old. He made mistakes that old men make, particularly ones with a historical speech impediment. I think there was cognitive decline when he was in office, but it really doesn’t concern me that much. The big problem was his insistence on running again.
Well, it was very clear to over half of America and the world. A clear basis exists for these claims and allegations. It was even discussed here before he ran, and you even defended the idea it should be discussed. This notion that he was just an old man, who make mistakes because he was an old man, who has some sort of speech impediment is just an excuse.

And, ironically, you then go on to admit his mental decline and just excuse it as not being a concern to you, and that the bigger problem was that he decided to run again.

If you had no concerns about him being president in mental decline, why did you have concerns about him running again in mental decline? And, now that you admit he was indeed in mental decline, why was it hidden the American people, and why are people, such as President Clinton still saying Joe was sharp and not in mental decline?

It seems to me that it should be paramount to find out, given his mental decline; who was making the decisions for the country as the elected leader? Is it wrong to want to know this and get to the bottom of what exactly was going on? If so why?

In regard to his historical speech impediment .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiGrF0uL6vg It seem that might be more of an excuse, in looking at his political life and documented earlier recording, it is clear that it was mental decline, and not a childhood speech impediment that he claimed he overcame.

You wrote back in the spring of 2022:
When I compare the Biden of today with the Biden of a couple of decades ago, the differences are very striking. I see what appears to me to be clear evidence of decline.
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I essentially agree with all of this. Moreover, Trump could have never united the West against Russia’s invasion of Ukraine the way Biden has. It is true that his speech impediment has become more difficult to keep in check as advanced old age does its work. This makes him look worse than he is, but cognitive decline is cognitive decline. Moreover, he has never been the sharpest of our pols.
Again, folks believe it is important to see just how far his cognitive decline was/is. I heard something about that his personal doctor was summoned, is that a fair move by the GOP?
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