Obama Campaign is 3 for 3

[_antishock8]

http://www.ontheissues.org/sarah_Palin.htm

You can click on any politician and get a good feel for their positions on a variety of issues.

[_Some Schmo]

1) She's a Governor, and she's done a good job.

Questionable. She's not even served a full term, so we don't even know if she'd be re-elected.

2) She's a Governor of Alaska which requires sharp management skills; huge resources, lots of money, vast expanses, etc..

Again, we haven't gotten a voter review on how well she managed those things.

3) She's a woman. I personally think more women need to be represented in government, and I'm excited about supporting a female for Vice-President.

Sure we do, but not just any damn woman. Would you support Christy Brinkley, Paris Hilton, or Pamela Anderson if they were running?

This is really a piss-poor reason, given she's under qualified. Anyone who thinks living next to a country gives them foreign policy experience is under qualified. It's like someone claiming they could coach an NFL team after seeing the outside of a football stadium.

4) She's witty and obviously intelligent. I'm not sure how many stupid people you have to be around, but I get to be around a lot of them. She is not stupid. I have a feeling if she were a Democrat a lot of the partisan complaining about her intelligence just wouldn't be happening.

Your standard of wit and intelligence must be pretty low. Obviously intelligent? Based on what? The fact that she can memorize a canned speech?

Granted, I work with some of the most intelligent people around in my line of work, but I still think I can tell a moron when I encounter one (dart, anyone?)

And you forget that there have been many conservatives calling for her to step the hell down.

5) She's hot. I've had two erotic dreams already about Governor Palin.

Well, to each their own. I found her mildly attractive right up to the moment I heard her open her mouth. Now all I can think of are the hookers from the movie Fargo when I hear her talk.





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[_antishock8]

I don't think you're doing a good job of convincing anyone that you're an objective voter. You have your reasons to not like Governor Palin, all emotive, no substance, and that's that. I can't say that I'm that different, it's just that I'm not pretending to make her out to be something that she's not while you are. I never thought I'd see the level of hysteria matched by the Clinton-haters, but it has been. Congrats.

That being said, I think Dart is very sharp. For you to sit there and call him stupid is more a reflection on you than it is on him. He and I don't agree on much, but I will tell you this: He's far from stupid.

In fact, I don't think you're stupid, either.

[_Analytics]

She'd be a great character on King of the Hill. I tell you what.

[_Brackite]

That being said, I think Dart is very sharp. For you to sit there and call him stupid is more a reflection on you than it is on him. He and I don't agree on much, but I will tell you this: He's far from stupid.

In fact, I don't think you're stupid, either.

Amen, antishock8!!!

Dart (Kevin) is a very sharp contributor to this Message Board.

[_Some Schmo]

I don't think you're doing a good job of convincing anyone that you're an objective voter. You have your reasons to not like Governor Palin, all emotive, no substance, and that's that. I can't say that I'm that different, it's just that I'm not pretending to make her out to be something that she's not while you are. I never thought I'd see the level of hysteria matched by the Clinton-haters, but it has been. Congrats.

Well, first off, I'm not in the business of trying to convince anyone of anything. Everything you will ever read from me is just a snapshot of what I'm thinking at the time. I tend to change my mind quite a bit, and I'm usually very tongue-in-cheek.

I won't deny that there is some emotion behind not liking Palin, but it comes from real observations I've made about her. Seriously, are you trying to tell me you're not at all concerned about her claim about foreign policy experience? I mean, that's hard data, man. If you aren't concerned about it, well... alrighty then.

That being said, I think Dart is very sharp. For you to sit there and call him stupid is more a reflection on you than it is on him. He and I don't agree on much, but I will tell you this: He's far from stupid.

Well, we can agree to disagree. If he is smart, he certainly doesn't show it, as far as I'm concerned.

I'm not impressed by people who seem to regurgitate crap they've read from websites that support their opinion and pass it off as their own thoughts. And the few times I've seen dart say something that appeared to come from his own brain, it's been so ridiculous, it's not even worth responding to. Another reason I think he's not that bright is that he's so arrogant in the process of saying stupid things. It appears as though he's actually trying to persuade, and if he thinks arrogance is the way to do it (especially in the absence of substance), well, that's just stupid, don't you think?

He actually reminds me a lot of McCain. Uses a ton of angry words that mostly amount to empty nonsense.

I have no doubt that there are folks that think less of me because I call him an idiot all the time, and although I think that's fair, I just don't care. I'm not trying to impress anyone, nor convince anyone. It's just fun. I do it because I have always enjoyed using people's own tactics against them to show them how they come off (you'll note I don't call everyone an idiot - very few folks, in fact). It doesn't worry me in the least what people think of my methods. I am who I am, and I will not change to suit other people's tastes. I don't consider a message board a popularity contest.

In fact, I don't think you're stupid, either.

Well, thanks, I guess.

But I'm not invested in how smart strangers on a message board think I am either. I don't write everything I'm thinking here; the vast majority of it goes unsaid. I don't have time to write essays or opinion pieces for this place. It's the same reason I'm not interested in debating people (well, it's lack of time plus the futility of debate). I'm not invested in what strangers think (otherwise, I would certainly be more careful about what I say). I know what the people around me in real life think of me (coworkers, friends, family) and that's good enough for me.

This place is simply entertainment, and I use it as such.

[_Jason Bourne]

Schmo

wow

this debate was a bore. Both were losers in my book. they were both lackluster and just gave their boring talking points.

Obama dodged his tie in and being in bed with fannie mae. Just ingored it. He is a crook.

McCain wants to but all the mortgages gone bad ? what the hell? THe government is going nuts we had better watch it or we won't have any private sector.

THere is no conservative running.

[_Jason Bourne]

In fact the American people are the real losers here. THis really was a debate of dumb and dumber

[_moksha]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27062761/

Of course, this is only two decades old; I'm sure with effort one could find something from when McCain was eight. ;-)

McCain would have been in his fifties back in the eighties. Much too young to be responsible for his actions. If so, he was only following Reagan's policy of supporting the right-wing death squads.

The U.S. Council for World Freedom was part of an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America.

Yeah right. Like how can McCain, who can barely lift his arms, be a terrorist?

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[_Droopy]

Senator John McCain did indeed win the first debate.

He also won the second. If some semblance of substance is at any point relevant, he could not possibly not win any debate with Obama. Obama is an empty suit. He also plays fast and loose with the truth about what he's already claimed in his campaign and regarding his record and history (or the tiny fraction of it we actually know about).

Obama is an unreconstructed DSA socialist, and his plan and vision for America is of a relentless and enveloping authoritarian nanny state. Read his platform folks. Its online.

Turn off CNN, CBS, NBS, ABS, MSNBS, and National Politicized Radio, stop getting your knowledge of current events from The View, start doing some serious reading and please, please think for yourselves (for once, for some of you) before you vote.