McCain's speach

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Do you not actually see the hypocrisy in your post? Are you that partisan? I, at least, can acknowledge your points, but are you willing, after everything you and your ilk said about Governor Palin and "McFossil"/"McCan't" that the Left is as slanderous and underhanded as the Right... Just in their own way?


First, I don't recall you acknowledging my points. I recall you repeatedly calling me a baby killer and ignoring the points I was trying to make.

Second, there is no doubt that both sides can be equally slanderous and underhanded. However, as someone has already pointed out, that does not mean that these specific campaigns were equally slanderous and underhanded.

I can't think of anything the Obama campaign put forth that equals, in level of slander, the charge that Obama is friendly to terrorists. If you truly believe that "McFossil/McCan't" or calling Palin an idiot is the equivalent of that, there is little left to be said. (Besides, you're using examples from posters on an internet board, not the candidate themselves. I don't recall Obama or Biden using the terms "McFossil" or calling Palin an idiot)

If you are ready to acknowledge my points, are you going to acknowledge my point that part of the reason McCain's supporters were booing has to do with that they've been repeatedly told that Obama "pals around with terrorists"?
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Well, he does. That's indisputable. ??

The crap the Left slung at Palin and McCain far exceeds the quantifiable, and verifiable "mudslinging" Obama experienced. McCain didn't have to throw nearly as many people under the bus as Obama did.

The first good signal I've seen from Obama, in a very good way, has been his apparent appointment of a Jew as his White House CoS. This should help mollify the Right's fears, justifiably so, that he panders to Islamist elements.

You are a supporter of baby-kiling, by the way. I don't know why you're so uncomfortable with the reality of your ideology. You support the killing of babies. Make peace with it. Jesus.
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The s*** the Left slung at Palin and McCain far exceeds the quantifiable, and verifiable "mudslinging" Obama experienced.


Interesting how you keep shifting the argument to the nebulous "Left" instead of the candidates. Palin directly associated Obama with terrorists, and McCain did so indirectly.

So now prove that either Obama or Biden made an equally egregious accusation.
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by the way, the worst attacks on Palin are probably yet to come... from republicans.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/0 ... 41653.html
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Interesting how you keep shifting the argument to the nebulous "Left" instead of the candidates. Palin directly associated Obama with terrorists, and McCain did so indirectly.

So now prove that either Obama or Biden made an equally egregious accusation.


:::crickets:::
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Re: McCain's speach

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beastie wrote:
Interesting how you keep shifting the argument to the nebulous "Left" instead of the candidates. Palin directly associated Obama with terrorists, and McCain did so indirectly.

So now prove that either Obama or Biden made an equally egregious accusation.


:::crickets:::


Rashid Khalili?????

Er... Uh... What??? *crickets*
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/2 ... 22392.html

Notice the newly appointed White House CoS's statement.

Obama's use of surrogates to attack Palin was simply a distancing (surprise!) measure to ensure political cache with the already gullible. If you buy that he and his campaign weren't behind vicious attacks on McCain and Palin then I just don't know how to interact with you. You're as dishonest as a Mormon apologist, but with a different subject. If you actually believe Barack "I've flipped off two opponents" Obama is as prurient as you're making him out to be... Then, man, you have bigger issues than Palin and the Republicans. You haven't learned crap about human nature since your departure from Mormonism.
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So, we have an admission. Obama nor Biden made any attack as egregious as those made by Palin, and less directly by McCain.

Whether or not Obama was "behind" attacks, (and the attacks you linked pale in comparison) the point is when the actual candidates are the ones accusing Obama of "paling around with terrorists" or being a socialist, those same candidates can't expect their supporters to suddenly turn on a dime and support Obama.
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beastie wrote:
The s*** the Left slung at Palin and McCain far exceeds the quantifiable, and verifiable "mudslinging" Obama experienced.


Interesting how you keep shifting the argument to the nebulous "Left" instead of the candidates. Palin directly associated Obama with terrorists, and McCain did so indirectly.

So now prove that either Obama or Biden made an equally egregious accusation.


Hello beastie,

Both Senators Barack Obama and Joe Biden directly associated Senator John McCain to George W. Bush.

Does this count, beastie?
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by the way, for those who don't want to go to the link, here's the quote AS apparently thinks is as egregious as accusing Obama of being pals with terrorists:

"Is this really who the Republican Party wants to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency? Given Sarah Palin's lack of experience on every front and on nearly every issue, this Vice Presidential pick doesn't show judgment: it shows political panic."


Oh my god!!! The horror, the horror!!!
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