Hope he doesn't think I'll drop it.Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:21 pmI hope you’re not holding your breath!Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:17 pm
When you make a positive claim (particularly as serious as the one you have leveled here regarding one of our posters) the burden of proof lies upon you to provide evidence for that claim. Please show evidence of Doc Cam "threaten(ing) to dox someone".
Quote it. Link it.
Post it right here on this very thread.
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Lem wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 4:10 pmHow about double-blind moderation? Just kidding, too much work, but that would certainly solve the issue Shades mentions.
Although seriously, we don’t need to know who the added moderators are, they could log into a separate mod account if they also comment here. If Shades has confidence in them, that would be sufficient for me.
I've long thought that masking the mods identity would be a positive change. It would cut down on suspicions and accusations of bias. If the board is moderated using certain techniques and one wants to petition against a ruling, it likely wouldn't be based on perceived bad blood between posters. The petition can be discussed in the Mod Forum and if it finds merit, the action can be reversed.
There's really nothing that can't be reversed.
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Something else I wanted to add to this thread. I've always been in favor of a rotation of mods. If a plethora of posters volunteer or accept a position based on nominations in confidence (yes, I said nominations) why not at least keep some folks ready as alternates ready to spring to duty should the need arise?
You know. Like EA departing the scene apparently without notice and for all I know, harmony did the same.
It would help to prevent people dumping on the place.
You know. Like EA departing the scene apparently without notice and for all I know, harmony did the same.
It would help to prevent people dumping on the place.
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Folks here know each other so well, I’d expect most folks would figure out identities in short order. On the other hand, I think having separate log in would help a moderator more easily get into that clone of Shades mind set.Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:20 pmLem wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 4:10 pmHow about double-blind moderation? Just kidding, too much work, but that would certainly solve the issue Shades mentions.
Although seriously, we don’t need to know who the added moderators are, they could log into a separate mod account if they also comment here. If Shades has confidence in them, that would be sufficient for me.
I've long thought that masking the mods identity would be a positive change. It would cut down on suspicions and accusations of bias. If the board is moderated using certain techniques and one wants to petition against a ruling, it likely wouldn't be based on perceived bad blood between posters. The petition can be discussed in the Mod Forum and if it finds merit, the action can be reversed.
There's really nothing that can't be reversed.
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If I were to post mod comments on this board and in an edited from within post, using a mask, I can assure you that no one would know it was me.Res Ipsa wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:10 pmFolks here know each other so well, I’d expect most folks would figure out identities in short order. On the other hand, I think having separate log in would help a moderator more easily get into that clone of Shades mind set.Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:20 pm
I've long thought that masking the mods identity would be a positive change. It would cut down on suspicions and accusations of bias. If the board is moderated using certain techniques and one wants to petition against a ruling, it likely wouldn't be based on perceived bad blood between posters. The petition can be discussed in the Mod Forum and if it finds merit, the action can be reversed.
There's really nothing that can't be reversed.
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Don’t forget to type in a heavy Russian accent.Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:15 pmIf I were to post mod comments on this board and in an edited from within post, using a mask, I can assure you that no one would know it was me.
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Vut, ah you tawking to me?canpakes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:30 pmDon’t forget to type in a heavy Russian accent.Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:15 pmIf I were to post mod comments on this board and in an edited from within post, using a mask, I can assure you that no one would know it was me.
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I have been online too. freaking. long. 

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I agree. It's just too disconcerting to be in a discussion with a person (who happens to be a mod) who expresses a personal opinion about your post, and then, suddenly, to see the moderator cap put on and --wouldn't you know it-- the moderator agrees with the personal opinion of the poster (coincidentally, themselves)!Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:20 pmLem wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 4:10 pmHow about double-blind moderation? Just kidding, too much work, but that would certainly solve the issue Shades mentions.
Although seriously, we don’t need to know who the added moderators are, they could log into a separate mod account if they also comment here. If Shades has confidence in them, that would be sufficient for me.
I've long thought that masking the mods identity would be a positive change. It would cut down on suspicions and accusations of bias. If the board is moderated using certain techniques and one wants to petition against a ruling, it likely wouldn't be based on perceived bad blood between posters...
And then moderator action is taken supporting the personal opinion (of themselves), and your post is moved, edited, deleted, whatever.
At least with anonymous modding, that appearance of bias will be removed. Notice I said "appearance." Arguing the mod action was right doesn't eliminate the appearance of bias, which still has the potential to leave a very negative feeling.
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You say this as though it's a real thing that happened. Have you a link that could be used a a cautionary example?Lem wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:33 pmI agree. It's just too disconcerting to be in a discussion with a person (who happens to be a mod) who expresses a personal opinion about your post, and then, suddenly, to see the moderator cap put on and --wouldn't you know it-- the moderator agrees with the personal opinion of the poster (coincidentally, themselves)!Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:20 pm
I've long thought that masking the mods identity would be a positive change. It would cut down on suspicions and accusations of bias. If the board is moderated using certain techniques and one wants to petition against a ruling, it likely wouldn't be based on perceived bad blood between posters...
And then moderator action is taken supporting the personal opinion (of themselves), and your post is moved, edited, deleted, whatever.
At least with anonymous modding, that appearance of bias will be removed. Notice I said "appearance." Arguing the mod action was right doesn't eliminate the appearance of bias, which still has the potential to leave a very negative feeling.
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we all just have to live through it,
holding each other’s hands.
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