Off-topic posts from ''Joseph's Swamp''

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_hobo1512
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Re: Joseph's Swamp

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madeleine wrote:

Your condescending tone aside, I saw the last of ParkerD's posts that have been deleted, before he was banned. They were unusually anti-Catholic (for him). I concede, he may have been pushed over the limit of patience, and lost his composure.

But, whatever, the Mormon threads have run out there. How often and for how long can Catholics tolerate and refute the lies of Mormons? Just go back and read previous threads, there isn't any need to create any more of them.

I think parker is back over there using a sock as "janderich"
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Re: Joseph's Swamp

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hobo1512 wrote:
madeleine wrote:

Your condescending tone aside, I saw the last of ParkerD's posts that have been deleted, before he was banned. They were unusually anti-Catholic (for him). I concede, he may have been pushed over the limit of patience, and lost his composure.

But, whatever, the Mormon threads have run out there. How often and for how long can Catholics tolerate and refute the lies of Mormons? Just go back and read previous threads, there isn't any need to create any more of them.

I think parker is back over there using a sock as "janderich"


He doesn't have the pretzeled posts of ParkerD. That guy was the master of circular logic.

If one had the gift of the holy ghost then one wold know that what a scripture passage says is what I say it says (insert text here that isn't in the passage being quoted)....that isn't what it says, you've just totally made stuff up and inserted it .... I have the gift of the holy ghost and so I know that is what the writer meant...but that's isn't what it says....if one had the gift of the holy ghost then one would know that what a scripture passage says is what I say it says....

Rinse. Repeat.
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Re: Off-topic posts from ''Joseph's Swamp''

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I just take them as they come, unless they are obvious. Makes no point to over-analyze.
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Re: Joseph's Swamp

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madeleine wrote:[
He doesn't have the pretzeled posts of ParkerD. That guy was the master of circular logic.

If one had the gift of the holy ghost then one wold know that what a scripture passage says is what I say it says (insert text here that isn't in the passage being quoted)....that isn't what it says, you've just totally made stuff up and inserted it .... I have the gift of the holy ghost and so I know that is what the writer meant...but that's isn't what it says....if one had the gift of the holy ghost then one would know that what a scripture passage says is what I say it says....

Rinse. Repeat.

Very true.

I told him several times he was going to get carpal tunnel from all the twisting he was doing.

But he kept it up to the end.
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Re: Off-topic posts from ''Joseph's Swamp''

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I am a firm believer in the principle that if a belief has positive effects in the individual and in society, then it is right. His beliefs are based on the justifications and rationalizations of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young and those who followed them.

Discussions of belief divorced from ethics often end up going in circles. The pre-existence, for example, justifies man's inhumanity to man. That is the reason why Christian scriptures cannot be interpreted in such a way that supports pre-existence.
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I see the order and harmony to be the very image of God which smiles upon us each morning as we awake.

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Re: Off-topic posts from ''Joseph's Swamp''

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MCB wrote:I just take them as they come, unless they are obvious. Makes no point to over-analyze.


All the same, except when they're not. :biggrin:
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Re: Off-topic posts from ''Joseph's Swamp''

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MCB wrote:I am a firm believer in the principle that if a belief has positive effects in the individual and in society, then it is right. His beliefs are based on the justifications and rationalizations of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young and those who followed them.

Discussions of belief divorced from ethics often end up going in circles. The pre-existence, for example, justifies man's inhumanity to man. That is the reason why Christian scriptures cannot be interpreted in such a way that supports pre-existence.


Comes down to morality. We should never view or believe that an evil action or belief can be made good by a good intent. I see all over Mormonism a foundational belief that the ends justify the means.

All of us can justify our sins as good, if given this proposition. Evil becomes subjective, and forgiveness, meaningless. No need to ask, and no need to give forgiveness.

A person with an unusual propensity for evil can, and will, justify anything.
Being a Christian is not the result of an ethical choice or a lofty idea, but the encounter with an event, a person, which gives life a new horizon and a decisive direction -Pope Benedict XVI
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