Let?????s Clear Up Tomahawk Chop Excuse From Left!!

[_Maksutov]

Do you think all teams that use NA imagery fall under your observation, or just the Redskins? For example, my high school's mascot, the Indian, specifically a particular profile design that is on the school's reader board, was design by members of the Spokane tribe. Where does racism stop and respectful homage begin for you?

- Doc

Richland High School in Washington State's mascot is The Bombers. As in nuclear incineration of Japanese civilians. Or as in the patriotic enders of WW2. Or both.

I always felt sorry for the Jordan Beetdiggers.

[_subgenius]

…(snip)...Where does racism stop and respectful homage begin for you?

- Doc

at political party affiliation?

[_subgenius]

Yes, kind of like how the Germans kicked the arses of those Poles and Jewish folks in the Warsaw Ghetto. Certainly, the victor always has the moral high ground and never needs to self-reflect on their actions or intent. That war was not an atrocity by any means except inasmuch as war inherently is for all who participated. Right? ; )

I did not say the victors inherently had moral high ground, and no one but you is talking about Germans...I simply noted the obvious fact that because a couple of self-loathing white people consider the tomahawk chop to be offensive (for a yet to be revealed reason) this does not elevate NA's to some sort of oppressed class (which they are not). What is it with you and Elizabeth Warren that makes you feel so entitled to champion the wide and diverse people that you clump together as "Native Americans"?....its more racism from the Left, like the clumping together of "Latinos" - its a game of race-baiting for political gain with you guys....and its unimaginative.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Richland High School in Washington State's mascot is The Bombers. As in nuclear incineration of Japanese civilians. Or as in the patriotic enders of WW2. Or both.

I always felt sorry for the Jordan Beetdiggers.

- Doc

[_ajax18]

But to be truthful, the NA's lost several wars and all these modern white tears do not suddenly give them moral high ground over the victors. This time in American history is not an atrocity by any means except inasmuch as war inherently is for all those who participate.

+1000

You're morally a much better person than most of the caucasian people on this board I've dealt with. I guess that kind blows any caucasian means moral superiority theories out of the water doesn't it?

[_Maksutov]

I always keep in mind that Native Americans have probably slaughtered eachother ever since they crossed the landbridge. I'm not excusing the genocide against them but I'm not buying all the spirituality and noble savagery either. People are people.

[Guest]

Yes, kind of like how the Germans kicked the arses of those Poles and Jewish folks in the Warsaw Ghetto. Certainly, the victor always has the moral high ground and never needs to self-reflect on their actions or intent. That war was not an atrocity by any means except inasmuch as war inherently is for all who participated. Right? ; )

I did not say the victors inherently had moral high ground, and no one but you is talking about Germans...I simply noted the obvious fact that because a couple of self-loathing white people consider the tomahawk chop to be offensive (for a yet to be revealed reason) this does not elevate NA's to some sort of oppressed class (which they are not). What is it with you and Elizabeth Warren that makes you feel so entitled to champion the wide and diverse people that you clump together as "Native Americans"?....its more racism from the Left, like the clumping together of "Latinos" - its a game of race-baiting for political gain with you guys....and its unimaginative.

Hey, nice word salad there. But, you seem to have both a poor grasp of history and an inability to recognize that it isn’t necessarily just ‘white folks’ who see the tomahawk chop as problematic or offensive. Here’s an article from 1991 that speaks to this stunning (for you, anyway) fact:

https://journaltimes.com/news/national/ ... cc168.html

And, aside from your bizarre claim that stating how someone else feels about something is akin to asserting a moral superiority over them (lol), I also note your ironic marginalization of other cultures by attempting to speak for them about how other folks dare appear to speak for them.

I guess that I should be impressed by how hard you work at being wrong, but I’m out of little gold stars, today. Sorry.

[_canpakes]

You're morally a much better person than most of the caucasian people on this board I've dealt with. I guess that kind blows any caucasian means moral superiority theories out of the water doesn't it?

Now, who would claim such a thing? ; )

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I always keep in mind that Native Americans have probably slaughtered eachother ever since they crossed the landbridge. I'm not excusing the genocide against them but I'm not buying all the spirituality and noble savagery either. People are people.

Well. The history of Man is concurrently a history of war or preparing for war. Sometimes I wonder if people who love to take Americans, or Europeans, or the Romans, or the Greeks, or some other endlessly recursive history with any other culture to task just lack any sort of connection with it. It's a transparent political strategy that I think ignores who we are and how life tends to go in cycles.

Whatever the case may be, equating some enthusiastic fans doing a tomahawk chop at a football game with 'racists' seems to be, as Honor might put it, using an elephant gun on a gnat.

- Doc

[_ajax18]

Now, who would claim such a thing? ; )

Well it seemed that way at one time to me just based on personal experience. But this board has driven me to reassess the white race. I've concluded most of them really suck. The fact that Kevin Graham, EAllusion, and Schreech are mostly white just doesn't add up anymore.