Dr. Shades wrote: The guy we're talking about happened to be "caught" because he's so high-profile that everyone knows what he did, so when the photos were mailed in either the property room folks (or his state's equivalent) recognized them from the media, or the staff members knew what he'd done to them as soon as he mentioned who the pictures on the wall were of.
Please keep in mind that I could be wrong about any of this. I simply don't remember this sort of thing being mentioned during training.
I don't know that he was caught. I only know about the photos because he mentioned them in his fairly recent 5 hour Feb 2019 interview with FBI, CBI, and Frederick police that I linked to above and listened to twice. They visited him at the prison in an effort to pick up new information.
In it, he supplies (or so we assume, I don't believe every statement that he made) details about the murders that weren't known until he did this interview. He mentions the family photo but I don't recall if that was in part one or two of the videos.
He was moved from CO to Dodge Correctional Facility in WI, presumably for his own safety. According to Wisconsin prison policies, I believe I read that he's permitted 3, 4x6 photos.
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I wanted to address canpakes' cabin fever/darker turn remark that was made earlier in the thread. If you think like I do (scary right?) it's not dark so much as it provides a real life demonstration and education for what I've devoted most of my adult life to.
When you follow these types of cases, the psychological states of the perpetrator are revealed in the telling of the details and particularly when we can hear the details coming directly from their own mouths. The language they use to describe what they did and who and what their attention was really focused on and how they talk about it.
When we begin to pay attention to these cases, and particularly when we have a chance to listen to the perpetrators tell their stories, it provides a wealth of information about mental illness and personality disorders for the general public that we might not be exposed to otherwise.
Narcissists like Chris Watts are created by emotional neglect and/or abuse in early childhood. If you are fortunate enough to learn something about the parents who raised them, you can get a glimpse of the parent traits that produced the narcissist.
So a case like the Watt's family murders serves as a cautionary tale for parenting and choosing relationships with suspected narcissists and how/why some people are drawn to them.
I find value, too, in learning about the details of the case where you can see the rookie mistakes the perpetrators made on account of their illness or disorder.
I'm fascinated by the way LE uses psychological techniques during interrogation. I watched every single second of Chris Watts' interrogation multiple times. It's incredible the way they masterfully handled him hour after hour after hour until he broke with something resembling a full confession. When the FBI, CBI, and LE investigators recently visited him in WI, I'm sure he felt like it was old home week and that he was so special, they wanted to continue their friendly relationship with him when what they actually did was pull more detail from him for their own future use and possibly, for the benefit of both the Watts and Rzucek families.
So, I guess the bottom line interest for me is that cases like this spread awareness of how narcissists are created and what they have the potential to become.
You can see clearly the differences between the Watts family and the Rzucek family in the way they express themselves. Watts' mother repeatedly draws attention to what Chris did (He attended Nascar tech) and his external qualities where Shanann's mother describes her inner qualities in depth.
Whew! God only knows the good man that Chris could have become had he been parented differently. You can see small hints of that man in his telling of his story (the little boy still exists only he disassociated from the boy in order to somehow survive) but his personality disorder so obviously wins the day.
I think that narcissists are in a continuous state of seeking narcissistic supply. When the source runs it course, they discard the source in favor of a new source. The annihilation of his family represents the final discard of his former sources of supply.
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One more thing...Chris Watt's parents sent him the family photo for his prison cell. That's likely because they still believe his initial confession that he saw that Shanann had murdered the children, then flew into a rage and did the same thing to her. Even though the interrogation tapes clearly show that LE fed him this scenario--he took the ball and ran with it. And even during that initial confession, his story about how he discovered that she'd killed the children differed multiple times.
So...the parents blamed Shanann for setting off their son's passions so that explains his behavior to their satisfaction. Of course he should have a photo of his family. None of this was really his fault!
Now he's made a new confession from prison, a confession that still lays blame at his now deceased wife's feet.
Amazing stuff, people.
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Here's the part you're not going to believe. The petition was instigated by a youtuber whose murder videos I sometimes watch. I say sometimes because unless you're snowed in, most of them are tedious and meandering live stream chats with subscribers. It's a guy in the UK who has contacts here in the US who attend court and report back to him and he's also got a contact on staff in the WI prison where Watts is incarcerated.
So...the petition was announced and linked to from the UK and now it's existence has been publicized on a local Denver station which is were Watts committed the murders.
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Here's the part you're not going to believe. The petition was instigated by a youtuber whose murder videos I sometimes watch. I say sometimes because unless you're snowed in, most of them are tedious and meandering live stream chats with subscribers. It's a guy in the UK who has contacts here in the US who attend court and report back to him and he's also got a contact on staff in the WI prison where Watts is incarcerated.
So...the petition was announced and linked to from the UK and now it's existence has been publicized on a local Denver station which is were Watts committed the murders.
naw, its totes believable that some person would think there is justification to interject in a circumstance with which they have no intimate, remote, or familiar association.
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subgenius wrote:naw, its totes believable that some person would think there is justification to interject in a circumstance with which they have no intimate, remote, or familiar association.
I’ll remind you of your typically inconsistent opinion later when you get all worked up about someone else’s family planning choices. ; )
subgenius wrote:naw, its totes believable that some person would think there is justification to interject in a circumstance with which they have no intimate, remote, or familiar association.
Oh sure. And that's why major networks feature them on their programs about the murder cases they youtube about and why courts list them as witnesses for the prosecution. Because they don't know jack.
You're probably too stupid to feel stupid.
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