A shift in right-wingism?

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Re: A shift in right-wingism?

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Binger wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:41 pm


Huck, you missed this part, where I was asked if I had read Chomsky?
Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:56 pm

Ever read Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent?
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Re: A shift in right-wingism?

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huckelberry wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:51 pm
Binger wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:41 pm


Huck, you missed this part, where I was asked if I had read Chomsky?



We good now?
Binger,
I see that both you and Res Ipsa feel an appropriate communication was made . I should and can accept your common judgement. I am in the dark about the meta conversation noted which seems to have caused me to underestimate the substance of your exchange.
Thanks, Huck. I wouldn't go so far as to say that you "should" accept anyone's judgment other than your own. I just wanted to communicate my own perception of the exchange. The meta conversation is titled "Memes and Stuff." Yeah, it's one of my incredibly unhelpful titles...
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Re: A shift in right-wingism?

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:55 pm
huckelberry wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:51 pm
Binger,
I see that both you and Res Ipsa feel an appropriate communication was made . I should and can accept your common judgement. I am in the dark about the meta conversation noted which seems to have caused me to underestimate the substance of your exchange.
Thanks, Huck. I wouldn't go so far as to say that you "should" accept anyone's judgment other than your own. I just wanted to communicate my own perception of the exchange. The meta conversation is titled "Memes and Stuff." Yeah, it's one of my incredibly unhelpful titles...
Yeah. The thread title could be improved. Can we get a moderator to deal with that?
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Re: A shift in right-wingism?

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huckelberry wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:51 pm
Binger wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:41 pm


Huck, you missed this part, where I was asked if I had read Chomsky?



We good now?
Binger,
I see that both you and Res Ipsa feel an appropriate communication was made . I should and can accept your common judgement. I am in the dark about the meta conversation noted which seems to have caused me to underestimate the substance of your exchange.
No worries, Huckelberry. Jump on in on the other thread, I am sure we are making all sorts of mistakes on that one. Have a good one.
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Re: A shift in right-wingism?

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One of the most worrisome trends I see is the embrace of Putin's authoritarian regime. Tucker Carlson actually said he was rooting for Russia (he later walked it back, saying he was kidding.) But he looks at the situation as a border dispute between 2 foreign nations. Why should we care?

Why should we care? Why should we want a democratically elected government to retain its borders against an aggressive authoritarian regime? Tucker talks about the malleability of our Southern border with Mexico. I think there is a much more modern and relevant European border situation: Hitler's invasion of Czechoslovakia, ostensibly to 'liberate' the Russian (oops!) German minority. We've seen this movie before, where a authoritarian leader uses the liberation of a minority as the pretext.

Tucker's philosophy seems to mirror the Trumpian ideal of the transactional now. The only consequence is what happens today. We will sort out tomorrow when tomorrow comes. There is no long term strategy, because there are no long term values. The GOP has apparently tossed their platform and ideals. The current motto is Whatever works today.
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Re: A shift in right-wingism?

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MeDotOrg wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:23 pm
One of the most worrisome trends I see is the embrace of Putin's authoritarian regime. Tucker Carlson actually said he was rooting for Russia (he later walked it back, saying he was kidding.) But he looks at the situation as a border dispute between 2 foreign nations. Why should we care?

Why should we care? Why should we want a democratically elected government to retain its borders against an aggressive authoritarian regime? Tucker talks about the malleability of our Southern border with Mexico. I think there is a much more modern and relevant European border situation: Hitler's invasion of Czechoslovakia, ostensibly to 'liberate' the Russian minority. We've seen this movie before, where a authoritarian leader uses the liberation of a minority as the pretext.

Tucker's philosophy seems to mirror the Trumpian ideal of the transactional now. The only consequence is what happens today. We will sort out tomorrow when tomorrow comes. There is no long term strategy, because there are no long term values. The GOP has apparently tossed their platform and ideals. The current motto is Whatever works today.
Yeah, this issue gives me whiplash. My recollection is that, after the formation of the USSR, Russia sent Russians to "colonize" each of the Republics. "Liberating" Russians has been an engineered excuse for military repression for a long time now.

The GOP feels adrift at sea to me. And I don't think that's healthy for the nation.
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Re: A shift in right-wingism?

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MeDotOrg wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:23 pm
Tucker's philosophy seems to mirror the Trumpian ideal of the transactional now. The only consequence is what happens today. We will sort out tomorrow when tomorrow comes. There is no long term strategy, because there are no long term values. The GOP has apparently tossed their platform and ideals. The current motto is Whatever works today.


Well put, Me Dot. The modern American penchant for the 'transactional now' is abrading every institution and ideal we should be holding dear. It's eviscerating us.
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