Cops are awesome people!!

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Atlanticmike wrote:
Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:38 pm
You really are a fxxxin idiot. What profession is perfect? Oh!! What about the medical profession? Doctors go to school for up to 12/14 years, residency, and still kill people all the time.
When we medical professional kill people we expect a lawsuit, loss of license and prison time.

Cops don't.

One of my closest friends is retired from the military, a former LEO and now a nurse. I worked in group homes for years before I became a nurse. I had no license and little more than CPR training (there are multiple levels to emergency aid from CPR to paramedic) and training in restraints. I faced many violent situations in those years perpetuated by people way bigger than me that had no inhibitions. I've had fire extinguishers, chairs and even old school heavy tv's thrown at me. I've been attacked with rolling pins and knives. The only time anyone got injured was when one of the residents broke a coworkers foot.

If we had even hurt, let alone killed, a resident we would be under state investigation and someone would be likely be convicted.

I get it though. Policing sucks, and they're underpaid.

Still, I'll never understand why police should be held to such a low standard.
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Atlanticmike wrote:
Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:33 pm

Of course his information is incorrect!!
So Tamir Rice and John Crawford were treated fairly by "awesome cops"? These aren't innocent mistakes.
Cops aren’t hunting black people.
Amaud Arbery's killers were former cops. They literally hunted him down and murdered him. Cops have been doing this for decades but we're only now realizing the extent of the problem thanks to the expanded access to video cameras.

More news on "cops are awesome":

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Cops don’t go to work so they can put as many black people in jail as possible.-
Straw man much?
Being a police officer is a tough job.
Especially when you'\re fired for trying to expose corruption within the dept.

Louisiana trooper who spoke out about police brutality is fired

Real Cops Who Stood Up To Corruption In Their Departments (And What Happened To Them)
There’s spikes of adrenaline that sometimes bring on the wrong response.
Mostly with black people though. How do you explain that? How do you explain that cops pull over more black people during the day time but at night it ends up being proportionate? Because at night they can't see the color of the driver.

Keep carrying the water for the racists in this country.
Fear is a huge issue for the police and fear can trigger a bad response and sometimes a terrible outcome.
When George Floyd was being murdered on live television did the cop appear to be in "fear"? No, he was cocky, putting on a show for the crowd essentially letting them know he is above reproach. He can act anyway he wants with impunity.
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So K Graham. Is it reasonable to assume, based on your comments, that you want all cops fired or imprisoned and for there to never be another cop in America? That seems to be the direction you are going with this.
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Binger wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:05 pm
So K Graham. Is it reasonable to assume, based on your comments, that you want all cops fired or imprisoned and for there to never be another cop in America? That seems to be the direction you are going with this.
No it's not reasonable to assume that, and no it doesn't seem to be the direction he's going.

Please re-read the thread if you would like to participate.
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Marcus wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:53 pm
Binger wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:05 pm
So K Graham. Is it reasonable to assume, based on your comments, that you want all cops fired or imprisoned and for there to never be another cop in America? That seems to be the direction you are going with this.
No it's not reasonable to assume that, and no it doesn't seem to be the direction he's going.

Please re-read the thread if you would like to participate.
He wants most cops fired or imprisoned? I read his comments again. I am pretty sure he wants all the cops fired or imprisoned.

I think K Graham's idea is a terrible idea. I think we should back the police, fund them well and train them well.
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Binger wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:05 pm
So K Graham. Is it reasonable to assume, based on your comments, that you want all cops fired or imprisoned and for there to never be another cop in America? That seems to be the direction you are going with this.
Not a reasonable assumption at all unless you're just an idiot like AM who thinks killing innocent black people is an acceptable consequence of the job.

Anyone reading my comments here and elsewhere can easily deduce that I believe only some cops are bad, not all. But there are enough to cause serious problems and violations of civil rights. The fact that so many white people like you refuse to even acknowledge this irrefutable fact is pretty much evidence of the systemic racism I've been talking about here for years. I think we need to really up our standards when it comes to hiring cops. They need extensive training in de-escalation tactics instead of being allowed to let their egos run amuck. And they need to be held accountable for their actions. For too many decades now the police forces across the country have become accustomed to a culture of being above reproach. They act with impunity and expect to get away with it. And people like you and AM constantly make excuses for them, unless they're arresting white people. The fact is some people really have absolutely no business being cops. Why is this so hard to understand? Cops are low skilled individuals with weak training and they're all underpaid. I actually went through the training to become a cop in 2008 but decided against it half way through. They were weeding people out based on "psychological" profiles so to speak. When they asked me if I had ever done pot, I put no. Then they told me that they'd rather have a "pot head" tell the truth instead of just lying to them because I think that's what they want to hear. At that point I had to explain it was against my religion and assured them I was being honest. But what I will never forget is the initial orientation in a room with about 40 candidates and one guy talking to us as if we were getting ready to go through SEAL training. He was a real hard ass, but I understood he was just trying to thin the herd because the class was bigger than usual and they were only hiring about 8 people. Anyway, what struck me as curious is when he asked someone what they would do in certain situations which called for using a firearm. He asked where he should aim if firing on someone, and the guy responded the leg. The cop laughed and then got pissed saying you "ALWAYS AIM CENTER MASS, and if you can't do that, you don't belong here." Basically, you're always trying to kill the person, no exceptions. He was trying to see who had the balls to actually kill people, because that's who he wanted on their team. Of course, he didn't word it that way. He'd put it in the context of knowing if your partner could trust you to fire back to save his life or what not.
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Binger wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:58 pm

He wants most cops fired or imprisoned? I read his comments again. I am pretty sure he wants all the cops fired or imprisoned.
Well, then you have the comprehension of a four year old if you're still unable to understand what was said in plain English, because my first remark speaks for itself: "Some are awesome, some are pieces of crap. Only an idiot would blanket describe ALL people of any group as "awesome."
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K Graham wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:59 pm
Binger wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:05 pm
So K Graham. Is it reasonable to assume, based on your comments, that you want all cops fired or imprisoned and for there to never be another cop in America? That seems to be the direction you are going with this.
Not a reasonable assumption at all unless you're just an idiot like AM who thinks killing innocent black people is an acceptable consequence of the job.

Anyone reading my comments here and elsewhere can easily deduce that I believe only some cops are bad, not all. But there are enough to cause serious problems and violations of civil rights. The fact that so many white people like you refuse to even acknowledge this irrefutable fact is pretty much evidence of the systemic racism I've been talking about here for years. I think we need to really up our standards when it comes to hiring cops. They need extensive training in de-escalation tactics instead of being allowed to let their egos run amuck. And they need to be held accountable for their actions. For too many decades now the police forces across the country have become accustomed to a culture of being above reproach. They act with impunity and expect to get away with it. And people like you and AM constantly make excuses for them, unless they're arresting white people. The fact is some people really have absolutely no business being cops. Why is this so hard to understand? Cops are low skilled individuals with weak training and they're all underpaid. I actually went through the training to become a cop in 2008 but decided against it half way through. They were weeding people out based on "psychological" profiles so to speak. When they asked me if I had ever done pot, I put no. Then they told me that they'd rather have a "pot head" tell the truth instead of just lying to them because I think that's what they want to hear. At that point I had to explain it was against my religion and assured them I was being honest. But what I will never forget is the initial orientation in a room with about 40 candidates and one guy talking to us as if we were getting ready to go through SEAL training. He was a real hard ass, but I understood he was just trying to thin the herd because the class was bigger than usual and they were only hiring about 8 people. Anyway, what struck me as curious is when he asked someone what they would do in certain situations which called for using a firearm. He asked where he should aim if firing on someone, and the guy responded the leg. The cop laughed and then got pissed saying you "ALWAYS AIM CENTER MASS, and if you can't do that, you don't belong here." Basically, you're always trying to kill the person, no exceptions. He was trying to see who had the balls to actually kill people, because that's who he wanted on their team. Of course, he didn't word it that way. He'd put it in the context of knowing if your partner could trust you to fire back to save his life or what not.
So, they rejected you, and now you have a chip on your shoulder. You have extrapolated from your alleged experience that all cops and all training is like this alleged experience that you are describing, and you also believe that people who want cops to aim for the leg know what the “F” they are talking about. Mmkay. So yeah, back to my original conclusion. Not only do you not want cops, you are a racist who sees this only through your racial filters and you have no clue what cops do or how they do it.
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Gadianton wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:31 pm
Binger... you.. don't believe in 3/4s of the crap that you post here, you're 100% only trying to get under the skin of people you don't like with near zero sincerity regarding any of the positions you take. But then, you really do expect a guy you bought dinner for and call your friend, to use his authority to prevent moderators from preventing you from just crapping all over his board in 1000s of rando unhinged rants that would effectively run off all the long-time participants as at some point it's impossible to argue or discuss anything because there's just too much noise.

You're not a good friend, and whatever horribly low self-esteem you have has been well earned. Do us all a favor and go buy yourself a beer.
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Binger wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:05 pm

So, they rejected you.
I rejected them. Pay attention, toddler.
Binger wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:05 pm
You have extrapolated from your alleged experience that all cops and all training is like this alleged experience that you are describing, and you also believe that people who want cops to aim for the leg know what the “F” they are talking about.
Wrong on all counts. God you're dumb.
Mmkay. So yeah, back to my original conclusion. Not only do you not want cops, you are a racist who sees this only through your racial filters and you have no clue what cops do or how they do it.
Says the white idiot who posts about white "populists" criminals while whining about BLM in the same post.
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