Republicans censured Adam Schiff

[Some Schmo]

I have looked at the Schiff evidence and I have come to the personal opinion that he has abused his power and privilege as the then sitting Chair of the Intelligence Committe and I have come to the conclusion that he blatantly and deliberately lied to the country for years, he has caused pain and division in the country - he over played/promised rock solid evidence of Russian collusion for years - all for political reasons.

That was your conclusion after reading the Mueller report?

[Gunnar]

just being deliberately facetious to deflect from your inability to coherently defend Trump against the increasingly

Believe what? That Schiff should have been censured? If that's what you're talking about then I guess I am beyond hope in your view.

No. What I meant was if you really are stupid enough to think that the world is flat and that two plus two doesn't equal four, you are beyond hope. Please tell me you are not that stupid!

As for Adam Shiff, the evidence he presented against Trump is far more credible than you are willing to admit. The infamous phone call between Trump and Zelinsky was an unequivocal attempt at blackmail. Did you really ever listen to it? Do you really have any serious doubt that Trump really tried to incite the attempted insurrection on Jan 6 2021? If so, you have to be willfully blind! Do you still believe Trump is right about the 2020 election being illegally stolen from Trump, despite Trump losing 60 some odd cases in court over that, even in courts presided over by Trump appointed judges, you are delusional. If you don't think Trump has foolishly contradicted himself and/or repeatedly, inadvertently self-criminalized himself to the consternation of his own lawyers in recent interviews, you just aren't paying attention! The same is true if you still haven't figured out that he is a hateful racist and misogynistic bigot, or that the 37 most current indictments against Trump are not credible.

[Gunnar]

I have looked at the Schiff evidence and I have come to the personal opinion that he has abused his power and privilege as the then sitting Chair of the Intelligence Committe and I have come to the conclusion that he blatantly and deliberately lied to the country for years, he has caused pain and division in the country - he over played/promised rock solid evidence of Russian collusion for years - all for political reasons.

That was your conclusion after reading the Mueller report?

I doubt he has ever read the Mueller report or Mueller's conclusions about it. And no political leader in recent history has caused more pain and division in the country than Donald J. Trump and his sycophantic minions!

[ceeboo]

No. What I meant was if you really are stupid enough to think that the world is flat and that two plus two doesn't equal four, you are beyond hope. Please tell me you are not that stupid!

I am not that stupid.

[ceeboo]

And no political leader in recent history has caused more pain and division in the country than Donald J. Trump

I agree that Trump was/is very divisive and was/is extremely disrespectful and ungracious.

[Gunnar]

No. What I meant was if you really are stupid enough to think that the world is flat and that two plus two doesn't equal four, you are beyond hope. Please tell me you are not that stupid!

I am not that stupid.

I'm relieved to know that! Perhaps there is some hope for you after all!

[Gunnar]

And no political leader in recent history has caused more pain and division in the country than Donald J. Trump

I agree that Trump was/is very divisive and was/is extremely disrespectful and ungracious.

I am also relieved to see you acknowledge that! It's a good and even hopeful start! You surely realize, don't you, that that is a big part of the reason Schiff is so condemnatory of Trump. It appears that you, I and Adam Schiff are all on the same page concerning that issue, at least. That's good to know, because I don't actually dislike you!

[Gadianton]

that that is a big part of the reason Schiff is so condemnatory of Trump.

Maybe I'm playing devil's advocate here for a moment -- I'm not sure exactly what you meant by this, but being divisive and disrespectful is not a crime. Trump has every right to be as much of an unhinged jerk as he damn well pleases. It would be an abuse of power to even contemplate using the law to go after him for poor or reprehensible personal qualities, or for those personal factors to play a part in decisions to prosecute.

[ceeboo]

I agree that Trump was/is very divisive and was/is extremely disrespectful and ungracious.

I am also relieved to see you acknowledge that!

Interesting reaction. Maybe it would relieve you even more if you were to consider the possibility that the great majority of Trump voters would also agree with this, You see, in my opinion, the great majority of Trump voters are not Trump minions - nor are they racists - nor are they Russian spies - nor are they insurrectionists - nor are they xenophobes - nor are they etc, etc, etc. They are American citizens, just like you and I, who had to choose between two available options (unless they wasted their vote by voting for a third option that has exactly zero chance of winning) and they chose what they believed was the best option. There are obviously exceptions to this general statement - there are always exceptions.

I don't pretend to know the reason/reasons why people voted for Biden but he obviously received a lot of votes from my fellow Americans, so I accept it and I live with it.

You surely realize, don't you, that that is a big part of the reason Schiff is so condemnatory of Trump.

I would never claim to know what motivates Schiff. I, like you, can only guess. If I were to guess what motivates a powerful politician like Schiff, I would be skeptical and I would guess that the biggest motivator for Schiff is Schiff and his own political advancement/career within the DNC- followed closely by a motivation rooted in 100% loyalty to his political party. I would say the same for powerful politicians on the other side as well - like Mitch McConnell.

It appears that you, I and Adam Schiff are all on the same page concerning that issue, at least. That's good to know, because I don't actually dislike you!

You determine who you dislike based on whether they would agree with you and what you suggest you know about Schiff concerning Trump? Did I understand you right?

[ceeboo]

that that is a big part of the reason Schiff is so condemnatory of Trump.

Maybe I'm playing devil's advocate here for a moment -- I'm not sure exactly what you meant by this, but being divisive and disrespectful is not a crime. Trump has every right to be as much of an unhinged jerk as he damn well pleases. It would be an abuse of power to even contemplate using the law to go after him for poor or reprehensible personal qualities, or for those personal factors to play a part in decisions to prosecute.

(Bold mine)

No doubt, the thoughts of tens of millions of Americans.