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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:17 pm
I'd like to know exactly which Uniparty RINOs were considered the historical experts on this question? Trump is on his way to a landslide victory for the Republican nomination with much less money than Nicky Haley. How many Republicans are voting for her over Trump? RINOs are likely way overrepresented among conservative respondents of this presidential ranking. I'm sure even Mitt Romney considers himself somewhat conservative, as do the founders of the Lincoln project. Heck Schmo even calls himself a conservative at times. All this proves is that most RINOs are just as fascist as the Democrats with their willingness to sink to any level of lawfare to bankrupt, silence, and imprison their political opponents in a Putin-light manner.
Ajax's version of RINO=person with a brain, self respect, and a conscience who also happens to be conservative.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:49 pm
ajax18 wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:17 pm
I'd like to know exactly which Uniparty RINOs were considered the historical experts on this question? Trump is on his way to a landslide victory for the Republican nomination with much less money than Nicky Haley. How many Republicans are voting for her over Trump? RINOs are likely way overrepresented among conservative respondents of this presidential ranking. I'm sure even Mitt Romney considers himself somewhat conservative, as do the founders of the Lincoln project. Heck Schmo even calls himself a conservative at times. All this proves is that most RINOs are just as fascist as the Democrats with their willingness to sink to any level of lawfare to bankrupt, silence, and imprison their political opponents in a Putin-light manner.
Ajax's version of RINO=person with a brain, self respect, and a conscience who also happens to be conservative.
If you consider Some Schmo to be a conservative who holds conservative principles. Show me something conservative about the RINOs I've named.
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:17 pm
I'd like to know exactly which Uniparty RINOs were considered the historical experts on this question? Trump is on his way to a landslide victory for the Republican nomination with much less money than Nicky Haley. How many Republicans are voting for her over Trump? RINOs are likely way overrepresented among conservative respondents of this presidential ranking. I'm sure even Mitt Romney considers himself somewhat conservative, as do the founders of the Lincoln project. Heck Schmo even calls himself a conservative at times. All this proves is that most RINOs are just as fascist as the Democrats with their willingness to sink to any level of lawfare to bankrupt, silence, and imprison their political opponents in a Putin-light manner.
(My bold.)
Kishkumen wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:12 pm
Ajax's version of RINO=person with a brain, self respect, and a conscience who also happens to be conservative.
ajax18 wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:58 pm
If you consider Some Schmo to be a conservative who holds conservative principles. Show me something conservative about the RINOs I've named.
Regarding Nikki Haley: A much shorter list would be all the stances Haley has taken that were not conservative. Maybe you'll list them for us--however, I'm not going to hold my breath.
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ajax18 wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:58 pm
If you consider Some Schmo to be a conservative who holds conservative principles. Show me something conservative about the RINOs I've named.
I don't consider Some Schmo to be a conservative. What did I write that could give you, or anyone else, such an idea? If you can't think of what makes the traditional conservatives conservative, then I don't know how to help you. You seem to think a conservative is a Trump cultist. So, it would seem to be the case that the real problem here is not our understanding of the word conservative but your willingness to abandon conservatism for Trumpism and then call what you are doing conservatism.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:51 pm
ajax18 wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:58 pm
If you consider Some Schmo to be a conservative who holds conservative principles. Show me something conservative about the RINOs I've named.
I don't consider Some Schmo to be a conservative. What did I write that could give you, or anyone else, such an idea? If you can't think of what makes the traditional conservatives conservative, then I don't know how to help you. You seem to think a conservative is a Trump cultist. So, it would seem to be the case that the real problem here is not our understanding of the word conservative but your willingness to abandon conservatism for Trumpism and then call what you are doing conservatism.
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Why don't those so-called "historians" value narcissism and psychopathology as Presidential virtues?
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Moksha wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:18 pm
Why don't those so-called "historians" value narcissism and psychopathology as Presidential virtues?
They don't value James Buchanan's inaction during the run-up to the Civil War or Andrew Johnson's sabotage of Reconstruction, either. Given his avatar, Ajax may well disagree with them on that score too.
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Manetho wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:15 pm
They don't value James Buchanan's inaction during the run-up to the Civil War or Andrew Johnson's sabotage of Reconstruction, either. Given his avatar, Ajax may well disagree with them on that score too.
His list of top presidents is:

1. Jefferson Davis
2. Donald J. Trump
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Moksha wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:18 pm
Why don't those so-called "historians" value narcissism and psychopathology as Presidential virtues?
Why waste bandwidth asking questions to which you already know the answer?
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:45 am
Moksha wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:18 pm
Why don't those so-called "historians" value narcissism and psychopathology as Presidential virtues?
Why waste bandwidth asking questions to which you already know the answer?
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