No place for a president who will not defend the constitution

[Gadianton]

I'd rather that than the mass importation of poverty facilitated by the last administration, and it turns out that more Americans agree with me than with you.

Obviously that's not true. Very few Americans would agree with you, in fact, I doubt that you agree with yourself. You're being emotional, Ajax. Much of far-right conspiracy theory is fear-mongering over a deep state that circumvents due process by punishing dissenting citizens. FEMA tent cities and it's a long list.

[Dr Exiled]

Glad to see people here are for due process rights. However, it's just because Trump is doing it that there is all of a sudden this interest in due process. There wasn't a peep when Biden violated due process rights regarding immigrants out of election fear and people here probably didn't even know it was going on because Trump bad and non-Trump obviously good:

https://immigrantjustice.org/press-rele ... ant-rights
https://immigrantjustice.org/press-rele ... ue-process
https://lawandcrime.com/immigration/imm ... e-process/
https://www.newsweek.com/biden-border-e ... lu-1912410

Also, here is where Biden failed students regarding due process rights:

https://reason.com/2024/04/19/new-title ... otections/

[Kishkumen]

Glad to see people here are for due process rights. However, it's just because Trump is doing it that there is all of a sudden this interest in due process. There wasn't a peep when Biden violated due process rights regarding immigrants out of election fear and people here probably didn't even know it was going on because Trump bad and non-Trump obviously good:

https://immigrantjustice.org/press-rele ... ant-rights
https://immigrantjustice.org/press-rele ... ue-process
https://lawandcrime.com/immigration/imm ... e-process/
https://www.newsweek.com/biden-border-e ... lu-1912410

Also, here is where Biden failed students regarding due process rights:

https://reason.com/2024/04/19/new-title ... otections/

So, you are saying that snatching legal residents off the streets and deporting them is no worse than limiting the number of asylum seekers to 2,500 per day. Something like that?

I mean, yes, the Democrats and MAGAts have both failed to one extent or another, and we don’t have the sane and humane immigration system a truly functional republic should give us, but I really hope you don’t see the limitation placed on asylum seekers as somehow the same as drooling over the possibility of sending US citizens to a prison in El Salvador.

[Dr Exiled]

Glad to see people here are for due process rights. However, it's just because Trump is doing it that there is all of a sudden this interest in due process. There wasn't a peep when Biden violated due process rights regarding immigrants out of election fear and people here probably didn't even know it was going on because Trump bad and non-Trump obviously good:

https://immigrantjustice.org/press-rele ... ant-rights
https://immigrantjustice.org/press-rele ... ue-process
https://lawandcrime.com/immigration/imm ... e-process/
https://www.newsweek.com/biden-border-e ... lu-1912410

Also, here is where Biden failed students regarding due process rights:

https://reason.com/2024/04/19/new-title ... otections/

So, you are saying that snatching legal residents off the streets and deporting them is no worse than limiting the number of asylum seekers to 2,500 per day. Something like that?

I mean, yes, the Democrats and MAGAts have both failed to one extent or another, and we don’t have the sane and humane immigration system a truly functional republic should give us, but I really hope you don’t see the limitation placed on asylum seekers as somehow the same as drooling over the possibility of sending US citizens to a prison in El Salvador.

I'm talking about how everyone here is so partisan that they are blind to what their team does. But whatever. You paid a little lip service to how the democrats might be bad in some way. You're so independent.

You probably don't even realize, however, the slow erosion of rights since the early 2000's we've suffered and that Trump is just a symptom of what both parties are capable of. Both signed into law the "Patriot" Act, a law championed by Biden. That was the single most damaging legislation to our Constitution, probably ever. However, Trump is horrible, right, and this is way better than making something up like russiagate, probably a bigger scandal than Trump's due process violations with the MS-13 guy. A soft coup attempt is a lot worse for the country as a whole, regardless of what is droned on and on about the guy. Although, if your talking about snatching the Turkish student off the streets because some little country doesn't like criticism for their crimes against humanity, I'm for that and Trump should be punished for that, but punishment would have to include both parties and what fun is there in that? We'd have to drop the partisan nonsense and come together if we were to start collectively complaining about that certain country's hold on all of our politicians and our foreign policy since at least the early 2000's.

[Kishkumen]

I'm talking about how everyone here is so partisan that they are blind to what their team does. But whatever. You paid a little lip service to how the democrats might be bad in some way. You're so independent.

You probably don't even realize, however, the slow erosion of rights since the early 2000's we've suffered and that Trump is just a symptom of what both parties are capable of. Both signed into law the "Patriot" Act, a law championed by Biden. That was the single most damaging legislation to our Constitution, probably ever. However, Trump is horrible, right, and this is way better than making something up like russiagate, probably a bigger scandal than Trump's due process violations with the MS-13 guy. A soft coup attempt is a lot worse for the country as a whole, regardless of what is droned on and on about the guy. Although, if your talking about snatching the Turkish student off the streets because some little country doesn't like criticism for their crimes against humanity, I'm for that and Trump should be punished for that, but punishment would have to include both parties and what fun is there in that? We'd have to drop the partisan nonsense and come together if we were to start collectively complaining about that certain country's hold on all of our politicians and our foreign policy since at least the early 2000's.

Oh, you're so ahead of the rest of us, St. Exiled. None of us have ever discussed these matters, like the Patriot Act, etc. So glad you are here to enlighten our benighted souls.

[canpakes]

I'm for that and Trump should be punished for that, but punishment would have to include both parties and what fun is there in that?

“If we can’t catch every single criminal, we should strive to ignore any single criminal.”

[Dr Exiled]

I'm for that and Trump should be punished for that, but punishment would have to include both parties and what fun is there in that?

“If we can’t catch every single criminal, we should strive to ignore any single criminal.”

No, sarcasm, due to the penchant of the posters here to crave partisan bull$hiit. I guess it was the easy gotcha response, right? How about punishing all the a-holes back in D.C.? We'd have to leave the team and perhaps leave our love of othering, but, I bet it would be worth it. What do ya think?

[Dr Exiled]

I'm talking about how everyone here is so partisan that they are blind to what their team does. But whatever. You paid a little lip service to how the democrats might be bad in some way. You're so independent.

You probably don't even realize, however, the slow erosion of rights since the early 2000's we've suffered and that Trump is just a symptom of what both parties are capable of. Both signed into law the "Patriot" Act, a law championed by Biden. That was the single most damaging legislation to our Constitution, probably ever. However, Trump is horrible, right, and this is way better than making something up like russiagate, probably a bigger scandal than Trump's due process violations with the MS-13 guy. A soft coup attempt is a lot worse for the country as a whole, regardless of what is droned on and on about the guy. Although, if your talking about snatching the Turkish student off the streets because some little country doesn't like criticism for their crimes against humanity, I'm for that and Trump should be punished for that, but punishment would have to include both parties and what fun is there in that? We'd have to drop the partisan nonsense and come together if we were to start collectively complaining about that certain country's hold on all of our politicians and our foreign policy since at least the early 2000's.

Oh, you're so ahead of the rest of us, St. Exiled. None of us have ever discussed these matters, like the Patriot Act, etc. So glad you are here to enlighten our benighted souls.

Please, don't let me stop the overly emotional "I hate Trump" drivel you've been ranting about for the last however how long. I heard Trump was a Russian terrorist fascist. Why not start a thread about that? Oh if only Honor and Res and Cam were here to properly propagandize us. I guess if there isn't any incentive, propaganda fades away.

[ajax18]

"Just because the family has one incorrigible brat who is never satisfied does not mean the family has to break up."

I'll be satisfied when there's a thorough investigation of democrat lawfare, democrat politicians are held accountable, and it becomes clear that efforts to subvert the will of the majority through such means can never happen again. Those who can't get onboard with ending partisan political weaponization of the criminal justice system should self deport. Afuera izqierdistas! Afuera!

[canpakes]

How about punishing all the a-holes back in D.C.?

I suppose that we could send them to a prison in El Salvador.