The Great Biden Distraction

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Thu May 22, 2025 11:55 pm
If it weren't that big of a deal that Biden was mentally incompetent, than why did the media feel it necessary to lie to the American people about it for so long?
Actually a good question. The answer is this: look in a mirror. You are among a very large number of people who are dumb enough to think that it was some kind of huge deal, when you have proved that mental impairment is fine with you, as long as it is packaged as a psycho sadistic bully who steals from charities and talks tough with his grade school vocabulary.
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Fri May 23, 2025 12:34 pm
Huck, I am not even sure where to start here. If you really believe this, then why was he basically forced out of the race by the left? Even Kish admits he had dementia.

Building on Ajax's point, right wing media from the moment he decided to run saw and reported an obvious decline in Biden's mental acuity. It was pointed out in the 2019 debates by Biden's democratic opponents. Now those left wing media outlets that called outlets like Fox news liars, are basically now agreeing with what Fox reported in 2019, that Biden was not mentally fit to be president.

So if Biden was not failing mentally, why is the left wing now reporting otherwise? Do you trust the left wing media these days?
Do you trust implicitly ANY corporate media these days? If so, you are an idiot. All of the cable news networks are propaganda mills.
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Markk wrote:
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Fri May 23, 2025 5:14 am
Because he was not mentally incompetent.
Huck, I am not even sure where to start here.
Exactly. You’ve been meandering about on the edges of the topic without being able to settle in on anything in particular to examine.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 1:55 pm
ajax18 wrote:
Thu May 22, 2025 11:55 pm
If it weren't that big of a deal that Biden was mentally incompetent, than why did the media feel it necessary to lie to the American people about it for so long?
Actually a good question. The answer is this: look in a mirror. You are among a very large number of people who are dumb enough to think that it was some kind of huge deal, when you have proved that mental impairment is fine with you, as long as it is packaged as a psycho sadistic bully who steals from charities and talks tough with his grade school vocabulary.
So since most voters mistakenly believe having a president that belongs in a nursing home is a problem when it is not, the only remedy is to lie to them lest they vote incorrectly. Is that your view of saving democracy?
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Fri May 23, 2025 7:16 pm
So since most voters mistakenly believe having a president that belongs in a nursing home is a problem when it is not, the only remedy is to lie to them lest they vote incorrectly. Is that your view of saving democracy?
That seems to be Fox’s view given how many voters they say are mistaken to believe that having a president that belongs in a nursing home or a jail cell - due to his incompetence, grifting, sexual abuse, adultury, bad judgment, and fraudulent convictions - is a problem.
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ajax18 wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 7:16 pm
So since most voters mistakenly believe having a president that belongs in a nursing home is a problem when it is not, the only remedy is to lie to them lest they vote incorrectly. Is that your view of saving democracy?
You must believe so, since you voted for Trump. I told you what the situation was. I never said I approved of it. That said, I am not sure it is possible for politics to occur without an unacceptable level of lying, as most people make their political decisions not according to the facts and merits but by what their impression is from listening to propaganda and watching videos.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 1:57 pm
Markk wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 12:34 pm
Huck, I am not even sure where to start here. If you really believe this, then why was he basically forced out of the race by the left? Even Kish admits he had dementia.

Building on Ajax's point, right wing media from the moment he decided to run saw and reported an obvious decline in Biden's mental acuity. It was pointed out in the 2019 debates by Biden's democratic opponents. Now those left wing media outlets that called outlets like Fox news liars, are basically now agreeing with what Fox reported in 2019, that Biden was not mentally fit to be president.

So if Biden was not failing mentally, why is the left wing now reporting otherwise? Do you trust the left wing media these days?
Do you trust implicitly ANY corporate media these days? If so, you are an idiot. All of the cable news networks are propaganda mills.
I don't trust them at fac value, but I can test what they say. Fox was saying since 2019, Biden had some sort of acute cognitive decline, just like you just conceded Kish.

Is the just another time you state something and have retract, like your other snafu's....?

We debated it here when he was running, if I remember correctly you even said it was okay to question it.....and now you admit it was true, and deny that right wing media got is right. Lol, gotta love it.
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Fri May 23, 2025 8:10 pm
I don't trust them at fac value, but I can test what they say. Fox was saying since 2019, Biden had some sort of acute cognitive decline, just like you just conceded Kish.

Is the just another time you state something and have retract, like your other snafu's....?

We debated it here when he was running, if I remember correctly you even said it was okay to question it.....and now you admit it was true, and deny that right wing media got is right. Lol, gotta love it.
Do you know what the word incipient means, Markk? You don’t do complexity or nuance, do you? For you it is all black or white, one thing or the other. When I remind you what I actually said, you call it “walking it back” or something similar to that. In other words, in your clumsy binary view of things, complexity immediately sends you to your habitual daft declarations of victory.

Reagan did not have full-blown Alzheimer’s in his second term, and Biden did not have full-blown dementia in his late first term. Both were probably in some early stage of their respective diseases. With Biden it is really hard to tell because he has a lifelong speech impediment, which is not dementia. A lot of what appears as dementia in Biden’s speech is probably him struggling with the same speech problem he struggled with since childhood.

But we judge by appearances on tv. Did so and so “look strong” or “look old and weak”? Biden looked like a tired old man half the time. I don’t think that substantively matters. Trump has always been an ignorant, vicious bully and a narcissist. That has always mattered. It mattered when he decked his teacher. It mattered when he ripped off his customers or stiffed contractors. It matters now that he is violating the Constitution and taking bribes.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 10:05 pm
But we judge by appearances on tv. Did so and so “look strong” or “look old and weak”? Biden looked like a tired old man half the time. I don’t think that substantively matters. Trump has always been an ignorant, vicious bully and a narcissist. That has always mattered. It mattered when he decked his teacher. It mattered when he ripped off his customers or stiffed contractors. It matters now that he is violating the Constitution and taking bribes.
This really sticks in my craw! It's hardly controversial that Trump has indeed done some highly disreputable things during his business career, like stiffing his contractors, and his lawyers, and creditors. His Attorney General, Pam Bondi, was once involved in investigating him for his Trump University Scam until Trump paid her off by a political contribution. No wonder he nominated her!
Bondi announced that Florida would join a fraud lawsuit in New York against Trump University. Four days after announcing her involvement, Bondi received a contribution of $25,000 to her campaign fund from Trump’s foundation, according to the Associated Press. Later, Bondi withdrew from the lawsuit saying that there were insufficient grounds to proceed with the case. Bondi also claimed that she had no knowledge of the complaints against Trump University despite the more than 20 complaints filed with the Florida’s Attorney General’s office.
Also consider this:
Apparently, the donation to Bondi is not the first time that Trump has attempted to sway an Attorney General over to his side. Trump also paid the former Attorney General of Texas, Greg Abbott, $35,000 to his campaign fund. John Owens, former Texas Deputy Chief of Consumer Protection, told CBS News that he was also told to back off the Trump University case despite having strong evidence.

In an effort to defend himself against the Trump University fraud allegations, Trump told Jake Tapper of CNN on Monday that many attorney generals chose not to take the case singling out in particular the Attorney Generals from Texas and Florida. In fact, while campaigning in Iowa, Trump said “When I want something I get it. When I call, they kiss my ass. It’s true,” the Associated Press reports. Interestingly, both Bondi and Abbott have now endorsed Trump for President.
This is only a partial list of the disreputable things Trump is known to have done, and it remains a documented fact that he's a convicted felon.

What other President in history has had such a well known history of disreputable behavior and cheating and still managed to get himself elected? It continuously boggles my mind!
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Kishkumen wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 10:05 pm
Markk wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 8:10 pm
I don't trust them at fac value, but I can test what they say. Fox was saying since 2019, Biden had some sort of acute cognitive decline, just like you just conceded Kish.

Is the just another time you state something and have retract, like your other snafu's....?

We debated it here when he was running, if I remember correctly you even said it was okay to question it.....and now you admit it was true, and deny that right wing media got is right. Lol, gotta love it.
Do you know what the word incipient means, Markk? You don’t do complexity or nuance, do you? For you it is all black or white, one thing or the other. When I remind you what I actually said, you call it “walking it back” or something similar to that. In other words, in your clumsy binary view of things, complexity immediately sends you to your habitual daft declarations of victory.

Reagan did not have full-blown Alzheimer’s in his second term, and Biden did not have full-blown dementia in his late first term. Both were probably in some early stage of their respective diseases. With Biden it is really hard to tell because he has a lifelong speech impediment, which is not dementia. A lot of what appears as dementia in Biden’s speech is probably him struggling with the same speech problem he struggled with since childhood.

But we judge by appearances on tv. Did so and so “look strong” or “look old and weak”? Biden looked like a tired old man half the time. I don’t think that substantively matters. Trump has always been an ignorant, vicious bully and a narcissist. That has always mattered. It mattered when he decked his teacher. It mattered when he ripped off his customers or stiffed contractors. It matters now that he is violating the Constitution and taking bribes.
Lol, you admitted Biden had dementia.... then you get butt hurt when I agree with you. Kish, I doubt this is not even close to being over and more is going to surface.

Then after you said he had dementia, and I agreed, you asked me how I could know that, and now you are saying he did not have full blown Alzheimer's, as if you know.

The people that were close to him, more and more are saying he was not there or in charge. The right wing media more and more look like prophets as the left concedes more and more what it was like in the Biden White House.

Tapper in 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH9xtSIopSY

Tapper today....

https://youtu.be/j4bTACqceLI?t=183
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