Markk wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 1:45 am
Morley wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 12:31 am
Why would this move you, when nothing up to this point has? I'm genuinely curious.
Such as? That is a broad question.
Such as any of the other immoral or deviant shite that Trump has done.
Markk wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 1:45 am
I've touched on this many times over the years. We are all hypocrites, every last one of use here. We all have our lines, every last one of us. You are a liar if you say you don't. I voted for Trump twice, knowing he lies, is a narcist, and was a billionaire playboy. I voted for him because he supports more ideals I believe in, than Hilary and Joe, for me it is not even close. It is that simple. I have also said many times here, on this site that it is sad that we only have had the choices we had.
Saying that we're all hypocrites, or sinners, or thieves as justification for our own personal foibles is BS. We're, none of us, hypocrites or sinners or thieves to the same degree as each other. Piously using the false equivalency that we all have a failing dilutes our ability to address that failing, by defining it away. It's like saying that art is in everything or that we're all artists. If art is in everything to the same degree, then the word 'art' loses all meaning. If everyone is an artist to the same degree then Thomas Kincade is Michelangelo and Dr Seuss is Caravaggio--and we might as well not bother.
I do understand the part about voting for ideology rather than character. I think that we all have to make that choice continuously. I voted for Bill Clinton even though I didn't like what I knew of his character, because I thought his ideology matched my own better than Papa Bush's. After he lied about Lewinsky, his character deficits drove me away, and I wanted to see him impeached. Even now, I'm not sure I was right in my choices--either time. I think it's a hard call.
Markk wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 1:45 am
So to answer your question, my hypocrisy only goes so far, and I cut the ties with pedophilia for sure.
Good to know. I hope that is a hard line with you.
The problem with we humans, when we're drawing lines in the sand that we'll never cross, is that we move these lines once they become inconvenient. I'll bet that during the time that Clinton was in office, you would have said you'd never vote for any man who would take advantage of a woman the way that Clinton did. And that belief about yourself probably remained true...until Trump came along.
