Trump uses US army to quell protesters - is this legal?

[Moksha]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVK3FveThHc&t=13s

The police have been corrupted into a fascist assault force.

That link takes me to a video about luxury cruises.

My daughter pointed out that I am getting old and posted the wrong link.

The right link that she sent to me:

https://www.tiktok.com/@drapplejack/vid ... x7XV9HiQBz

[Jersey Girl]

Chap can I just ask you this? So on youtube can you view the other channels that we post from the US such as Brian Tyler Cohen, Meidas Touch, The Bulwark and others like them that share independent news and commentary? Just curious.

VPNs are there for when one needs to be ... somewhere else!

Ooo La La! So you can tunnel under the pond and pop up wherever you like. Got it and thanks!

[Bret Ripley]

Still, I think it is fair to remind them what they voted for. I don’t go in for this idea that you vote for part of what a candidate represents. You effectively vote for the entire candidate, warts and all, when you cast that ballot.

That reminds me of a quote I came across a few months ago:

Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.

That word is "Nazi." Nobody cares about their motives anymore.

They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?”
― A.R. Moxon

Please note I am not calling anyone a Nazi. (Unless the jackboot fits, I guess.)

[Some Schmo]

Please note I am not calling anyone a Nazi. (Unless the jackboot fits, I guess.)

You don't have to call anyone a Nazi. Trump voter (or MAGA) is good enough to convey the message. It already has similar connotations.

[canpakes]

LA Mayor Karen Bass, in a television interview regarding the deployment of National Guard troops to the city:

"On Saturday night, the president tweeted that 'because of the great work of the National Guard, the protests & the violence was curtailed.' The National Guard wasn't even here. They didn't even arrive until the next day. That's why it's very hard to not see this as a stunt or test case"

Lying is always very on brand for Trump.

[Kishkumen]

Trump is worse than a liar. His entire MO is disconnected from reality. Trump is a tasteless, cruel performance embodied. It is designed for television consumption. Reality is an inconvenience for Trump. If it intrudes on his tv fiction, misdirection is the solution. More fictions to cover failed fictions.

[Chap]

Just bumping again for Markk's attention. I'm sure he has a good answer that he can share with us. I'm very surprised that he doesn't do so!

I mean, I'm not asking him to look at a long video, or read an article from a newpaper. We both know the facts: Trump did not call out the DC National Guard (which he had power to do) when the Capitol was under violent attack and the Senators and Representatives has to be rescued from people chanting 'Hang Mike Pence'.

But he federalised and called out the California National Guard to deal with some street trouble in LA which seemed to be just the job for the LAPD.

Why LA, and not the Capitol? Why was LA so much worse? Hell, he even called out the US Marines as well!

Please explain why the second case was so much worse than the first.

Markk - remind me again: when a mob was attacking the Capitol on that January 6, shouting "Hang Mike Pence" and trying to break through the security barriers and locked doors to get at the Senators and Representatives to stop the election* being certified, why didn't Trump think that warranted calling out the National Guard?

Because he didn't think it was a dangerous enough incident?

Or what was it? I mean, he must have had a good reason, surely?

So just remind us now, please.



*You know, the election that Trump lost. That election.

[edited once for typo]

[Jersey Girl]

Federal judge says Trump unlawfully federalized members of California’s National Guard

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/la-pro ... p-06-12-25

DOJ will appeal.

[Gunnar]

Federal judge says Trump unlawfully federalized members of California’s National Guard

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/la-pro ... p-06-12-25

DOJ will appeal.

That link didn't work for me.

[Jersey Girl]

Hang on, Gunnar. Here's another from CNN. by the way, do we still have forces or civilian contractors in Iran do you know? No derailment...just a question.

The National Guard will return to the governor’s authority on Friday, Newsom says
From CNN's Alaa Elassar

California Gov. Gavin Newsom said the National Guard will return to his command by noon on Friday and “be redeployed to what they were doing before Donald Trump commandeered them.”

“The National Guard will go back to border security, working on counter drug enforcement and fentanyl enforcement, which they were taken off by Donald Trump,” Newsom said at a news conference.

“The National Guard will go back to working on what we refer to as the rattlesnake teams, doing vegetation and forest management –which Donald Trump took them off – in preparation for wildfire season.”

Newsom criticized Trump’s actions as driven by vanity and fear, saying, “the founding fathers did not live and die to see that happen in this country for no reason whatsoever than vanity, fear, to instill fear, to incite a response.”

“I’m very hopeful this order puts that in perspective, and hopefully Donald Trump will immediately back down,” he added.