Dr. Shades's spelling and/or grammar lesson of the day

[Dr. Shades]

When using ellipses, they should have a space on either side. As such, the above sentence should be written:

Choice of location . . . I'm going to wait for more information . . . because, it might've been a retired Texas sheriff who finally located where all the secret missing ballots are.

In this case, "information" is a complete sentence, so the ellipsis begins directly after the final word (without a space between them). So I was correct.

Play word games all you like Dr., the concept I suggested, that you are now disingenuously attempting to downplay is that you used enough of my post to make it easy for others to identify the writer, when it wasn't needed.

I preserved the context, since all three errors occurred within the same sentence. It's nothing personal; that's how I've always done it in order to cut down on the number of quote boxes.

The reason I am calling Bullship on it is: I have not seen you do a brake check on anyone for many moons now. Thousands of posts. I'd wager I could stroll through the board right now and find dozens of posts with grammatical errors more egregious than mine. Like say, every one of SGs. Yet you chose mine. Not because of its content though.

All true. I ignore well over 99.99% of all errors. This particular slew caught my eye because there were three in the same sentence. It's nothing personal; I promise.

So, lets see. My understanding is, you are in law enforcement, your political views lean right, you dabble in conspiracy theories. My comment then, hit you right in the bread basket. For crying-out-loud Shades, why don't you grow a sense of humor. It was an attempted joke. This has recently been in the news, and on this board. Maybe you missed it.https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/16/us/forme ... index.html
"Former Houston police captain charged with pointing gun at repairman, believing he was a voter fraud 'mastermind'

Yep, I missed it. The errors caught my eye, not the topic of the sentence (which I hadn't heard of before now). Again, none of this was personal in any way.

See, what you did to me wasn't technically ad hom., it was more a straightforward humiliation, bullying tactic. . . And now here's a tutorial for you. A gracious host, poster, corresponder, one as wonderful as you describe yourself, goes out of their way to not embarrass, antagonize, demean the person they are corresponding with. When possible.

Whoa there, big gunner! Don't worry, everyone else (who makes errors) will eventually have their turn! Did you not see that it worked that way on the old board?

Given a choice of being a spelling and /or grammar instructor, or captain/owner of a sailing yacht headed for the South Pacific, I know which one I'd choose.

I know which one I'd choose, too. Do you think I'd rather be a spelling and/or grammar instructor if I could instead be a captain/owner of a sailing yacht headed for the South Pacific??

[dantana]

Here endeth the lesson

https://youtu.be/vbkDa0OZetk

[Morley]

In this case, "information" is a complete sentence, so the ellipsis begins directly after the final word (without a space between them). So I was correct.

No. You'd need four dots for that.

[AZCaesar]

In this case, "information" is a complete sentence, so the ellipsis begins directly after the final word (without a space between them).

Oh well, in that case, you're still wrong. If an omission comes at the end of a sentence, you must include the original punctuation. So, with the statement in question being a full sentence, it would read:

Choice of location . . . I'm going to wait for more information. . . . because, it might've been a retired Texas sheriff who finally located where all the secret missing ballots are.

Four periods.

So I was correct.

This should actually read:

So, I was still incorrect.

What the hell, why not one more round?

Now that you all know better, go thou and sin no more.

"You all" would imply multiple people, a "plural", I believe most grammarians would say. "Thou" is the archaic subject form of the singular second-person pronoun. The above should read:

Now that you all know better, go ye and sin no more.

So, now that you (singular) know better, go thou (singular) and sin no more.

[AZCaesar]

In this case, "information" is a complete sentence, so the ellipsis begins directly after the final word (without a space between them). So I was correct.

No. You'd need four dots for that.

Apologies, I didn't see this post while I was writing mine.

[honorentheos]

Hmm, apparently we've never met. Hello, my name is Dr. Shades. Allow me to tell you a little about myself: A) People's mere opinions don't rattle or anger me in any way. As such, you've never said anything to annoy me.

Especially when those opinions aren't really opinion but just statements of fact regarding how much Perfume is just absolutely amaz-balls kitsch kawaii pop that doesn't suck at all, and the tongue-in-cheek manner he jokingly made them the official band of the old board or made a rule on this board against mocking them really underlines with red pen how much he doesn't care about other people's opinions. So all are free to express their adoration of Perfume, the kitsch kawaii-est band of all things kitsch kawaii.

Anyway, mandatory praise of Perfume now out of the way, there is really only one response to Shades when he does that, and it's to ignore him. This is a message board. I'll take interesting thoughts that have thumb fumbles and poorly worded sentences any day over bland, empty posts about crap no one cares about that are perfectly worded because Perfume is the kitschiest kawaii-kitsch Kitsch-Kitsch-Kawaii band ever!

[DrW]

Given a choice of being a spelling and /or grammar instructor, or captain/owner of a sailing yacht headed for the South Pacific, I know which one I'd choose.

I know which one I'd choose, too. Do you think I'd rather be a spelling and/or grammar instructor if I could instead be a captain/owner of a sailing yacht headed for the South Pacific??

The point of my comment was that different individuals have different goals in life and develop different skill sets to achieve those goals.
Tana (now dantana) is, in fact, the captain and owner of a blue water yacht, which he did sail to the South Pacific. I would liked to have gone with him. Safe and successful blue water sailing on one's own vessel is a lifestyle that requires a special kind of individual. It involves determination and a skill set build on broad knowledge, profound self reliance, attention to detail, and experience at a level relatively few ever attain.

I hold a commercial pilot's license with instrument and multi-engine ratings. Blue water sailing is at least as demanding as flying. If something goes wrong in the air, some form of help is as close as the radio. If something happens at sea, you are on your own. IMHO, these kinds of skills are much more significant and important in life than are the minutia of English spelling and grammar.

You would probably not take time correct errors in the written English of someone for whom English was obviously a second language. You have never taken the time to correct the occasional errors of a certain aged individual who drops entire words out of sentences now and then, or makes mistakes such as capitalizing the initial "D" in deGrasse Tyson.

In the past, when I've seen significant errors in word usage or spelling in the posts of others who I feel I know virtually, I have let them know with a short PM. They always PM to let me know that they appreciated it, and have done the same for me now and then. That way the error is corrected, the lesson learned, and no one is offended.

[canpakes]

Now that you all know better, go thou and sin no more.

"You all" would imply multiple people, a "plural", I believe most grammarians would say. "Thou" is the archaic subject form of the singular second-person pronoun. The above should read:

Now that you all know better, go ye and sin no more.

So, now that you (singular) know better, go thou (singular) and sin no more.

Would the correct plural version in Early Modern Southern English be, “Now that all y’alls know better, go ye and sin no more.”..?

[AZCaesar]

"You all" would imply multiple people, a "plural", I believe most grammarians would say. "Thou" is the archaic subject form of the singular second-person pronoun. The above should read:



So, now that you (singular) know better, go thou (singular) and sin no more.

Would the correct plural version in Early Modern Southern English be, “Now that all y’alls know better, go ye and sin no more.”..?

I believe it would be “Now that all y’alls know better, hold my beer and watch this."

[Dr. Shades]

In this case, "information" is a complete sentence, so the ellipsis begins directly after the final word (without a space between them).

Oh well, in that case, you're still wrong. If an omission comes at the end of a sentence, you must include the original punctuation. So, with the statement in question being a full sentence, it would read:

Choice of location . . . I'm going to wait for more information. . . . because, it might've been a retired Texas sheriff who finally located where all the secret missing ballots are.

Four periods.

Are you sure about that? 'Cause that's news to me.

Now that you all know better, go thou and sin no more.

"You all" would imply multiple people, a "plural", I believe most grammarians would say. "Thou" is the archaic subject form of the singular second-person pronoun. The above should read:

Now that you all know better, go ye and sin no more.

So, now that you (singular) know better, go thou (singular) and sin no more.

You know, I the only word I could think of was "thee," which just didn't seem correct. I'd totally forgotten about the word "ye," so thank you.

I'll take interesting thoughts that have thumb fumbles and poorly worded sentences any day over bland, empty posts about crap no one cares about that are perfectly worded because Perfume is the kitschiest kawaii-kitsch Kitsch-Kitsch-Kawaii band ever!

Perfume isn't "kitch kawaii." They're a serious performing group. Take this epic performance mashup, for example:

Perfume – Edge [⊿-mix] (Historical Live Act Version)

The point of my comment was that different individuals have different goals in life and develop different skill sets to achieve those goals.

You don't say?

Tana (now dantana) is, in fact, the captain and owner of a blue water yacht, which he did sail to the South Pacific. I would liked to have gone with him. Safe and successful blue water sailing on one's own vessel is a lifestyle that requires a special kind of individual. It involves determination and a skill set build on broad knowledge, profound self reliance, attention to detail, and experience at a level relatively few ever attain.

I wouldn't dream of arguing against that.

I hold a commercial pilot's license with instrument and multi-engine ratings. Blue water sailing is at least as demanding as flying. If something goes wrong in the air, some form of help is as close as the radio. If something happens at sea, you are on your own. IMHO, these kinds of skills are much more significant and important in life than are the minutia of English spelling and grammar.

I wouldn't doubt that for a minute. . . if one is at sea.

You would probably not take time correct errors in the written English of someone for whom English was obviously a second language. You have never taken the time to correct the occasional errors of a certain aged individual who drops entire words out of sentences now and then, or makes mistakes such as capitalizing the initial "D" in deGrasse Tyson.

Correct on all counts.

In the past, when I've seen significant errors in word usage or spelling in the posts of others who I feel I know virtually, I have let them know with a short PM. They always PM to let me know that they appreciated it, and have done the same for me now and then. That way the error is corrected, the lesson learned, and no one is offended.

And bless you for that.