Jersey Girl wrote:I don't mind the occasional insult on a thread but this one's turned into a complete ____ show.
What you are witnessing is an example of the nasty 'progressives' that have completely taken over the democratic party. Seething hatred, bigotry, insults, mockery and intolerance.
Jersey Girl wrote:I don't mind the occasional insult on a thread but this one's turned into a complete ____ show.
What you are witnessing is an example of the nasty 'progressives' that have completely taken over the democratic party. Seething hatred, bigotry, insults, mockery and intolerance.
Jersey Girl wrote:Okay, thank you. I'll try to reply to it tomorrow. I really, really, need to get back to my murder cases.
Would it interest you to know that I'm in the middle of working on a murder case right now?
Did it involve a narcissist socio/psycho path who made completely stupid mistakes (that only serve to reinforce the idea that he has NPD) during the process leading up to and after the murder? If so, I'm interested.
I'm not terribly interested in the details of how someone hacked up a body or whatever, but I'm keenly interested in the psychology involved particularly when the accused makes blatant mistakes because they lack the perceptive ability to see how stupidly blatant the mistakes really are.
For example: Writing a note a couple of weeks in advance stating upfront that they would never hurt themselves, their kids or their wife and if anything happened to them, to look at the wife. Then blaming the wife after they annihilate their whole family including the wife and blaming his final acts on her.
It's a decided plus if these things happened in areas of the country that I'm familiar with and know the resources available as well as the logistics.
If you're free to disclose I'm probably interested only for the love of Mike please get it out of this thread and make it a separate thread.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Ceeboo wrote:What you are witnessing is an example of the nasty 'progressives' that have completely taken over the democratic party. Seething hatred, bigotry, insults, mockery and intolerance.
Lol, well, Im not a democrat so i can only assume you are talking about other people as you lump everyone who disagrees with you into one group. I could have sworn you said:
Ceeboo wrote:Not seeing individuals as individuals and only seeing them as nothing but a member of a group (like you do) is extremely wrong, dangerous and destructive. for what it's worth, it's also an example of clear intolerance and bigotry.
...Your lack of any kind of self awareness is actually worrying. You seem mentally incapable of critical thought and seem to only be adept at blindly parroting right wing media. Dude, you need to get a grip.
"your reasoning that children should be experimented upon to justify a political agenda..is tantamount to the Nazi justification for experimenting on human beings."-SUBgenius on gay parents "I've stated over and over again on this forum and fully accept that I'm a bigot..." - ldsfaqs
You and I appear to have a disagreement over the relevance of race and religion to the discussion. (I assume we no longer disagree on sex.) So what I'm going to do is rewind to my comment and proceed as if you had responded: "Why is the fact that Pence and I are white evangelicals relevant to the discussion."
Here is my argument. People tend to be blind to problems that they don't personally experience. If I rely only on my direct, personal life experience, I would conclude that there is no racial discrimination. No one has ever discriminated against me based on my race. In fact, again based on my direct personal experience, America is color blind.
But if I reach out beyond my direct personal experience, it looks different. Just to take an example, there is pretty good evidence that black folks are policed at a higher rates than whites, are pulled over for traffic stops at higher rates than whites, get charged at a higher rates than whites for the same infractions, etc. It would never cross my mind that I would get pulled over for driving through a swanky neighborhood on a pretext. But for lots and lots of black folks, the experience is the opposite.
You, Ceeboo, may be perfectly colorblind when it comes to race. But that's not universally true, and sadly its not true enough to avoid creating a generally different set of experiences for white folks and black folks when it comes to interactions with the policy. And the fact that I have white skin means that my direct experiences will lead me to underestimate the existence of harmful racial discrimination.
That doesn't make me a bad person. It just makes me a person. We all make judgments on what the world is like based on our own experience. But it does mean that people tend to not notice or underestimate harm that they don't experience. And it gives me common ground with people who are like me, because their experiences in the world are more likely to resemble mine.
Pence's dinner rule doesn't just affect Pence. It also affects women that he excludes from dinner. When you say that the only interests that we can even talk about are Pence's, you are not looking at the women. And I don't think it's just a coincidence that the only person you are seeing is the person who is most like you. It takes effort to consider that a problem exists even though you've never experienced that problem. But what 's far worse to me is your condemnation of folks for even talking about how such a policy would be harmful to women.
I know we would all like to believe that we would behave in certain ways under hypothetical circumstances. But we don't really know, do we. It's easy to say "I would treat Denzel Washington same way" because we haven't had to put our money where our mouth is. Would you have jumped in, guns a blazing' and defended a liberal, black, female, atheist professor who would dine privately with the female students but not the 10% of the student body who was male? Calling everyone who disagreed with you a "radical leftist" and insulting their views as bizarre or unhinged? I'm not convinced. Maybe we'll get to see some day.
So, the fact that you share certain characteristics, including race, sex, and religion, with Pence is relevant because it illustrates and explains the fact that you are blind to the impact of Pence's actions on the women because you are falling prey to shortsightedness. And, it illustrates the absurdity of pretending that only one person in the interaction can even be discussed.
Now, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there is another perfectly good explanation for your refusal to even consider the impact on anyone other than Pence, to insist that the only person who matters is Pence, and that it is wrong to even talk about the interests of anyone other than Pence. If so, I'm all ears.
But here's the thing: there is a huge difference between me being wrong about the relevance of something in an argument and me being a bigot who is a threat to America. And you haven't even attempted to make that case. (Pro-tip: it never does.) In fact, you've based it on a lie: that I never see people as individuals. So, make your case. Lay out, in clear steps, your argument that I'm a threat to America.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Res Ipsa wrote:So, if black folks are actually being discriminated against in some harmful way, that's okay. What's not okay is talking about it.
I'm beginning to not take you seriously.
The White, Male, Evangelical Christian Coward.
I take you very seriously.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Jersey Girl wrote:I don't mind the occasional insult on a thread but this one's turned into a complete ____ show.
What you are witnessing is an example of the nasty 'progressives' that have completely taken over the democratic party. Seething hatred, bigotry, insults, mockery and intolerance.
I mean this is the friendliest way possible. Shut it, Ceebs.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Jersey Girl wrote:I don't mind the occasional insult on a thread but this one's turned into a complete ____ show.
There was a topic here. Thanks for destroying ____ out of it you guys.
You can't fight here. This is the war room!
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
