Trucker Protest in Canada

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Re: Trucker Protest in Canada

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Themis wrote:
Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:55 pm
Those who got arrested didn't get arrested because they wanted mandates to be lifted. They got arrested for breaking the law.
Yup. There actually are some countries where it is against the law to deliberately obstruct a public road. How horrible!!!
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Chap wrote:
Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:25 pm
Themis wrote:
Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:55 pm
Those who got arrested didn't get arrested because they wanted mandates to be lifted. They got arrested for breaking the law.
Yup. There actually are some countries where it is against the law to deliberately obstruct a public road. How horrible!!!
Have there been other examples of roads were blocked by protestors and there were no arrests?
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Binger wrote:
Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:44 pm
Have there been other examples of roads were blocked by protestors and there were no arrests?
Protesters will always end up getting arrested if they completely refuse to unblock the roads. This is why we see arrests for all kinds of protests from the left and right, and why the vast majority do not get arrested, because they leave after getting final notices they will be arrested if they do not abide by the law.

How long do you think I could block a busy road by myself before police arrest me and tow my truck?
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Chap wrote:
Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:25 pm
Themis wrote:
Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:55 pm
Those who got arrested didn't get arrested because they wanted mandates to be lifted. They got arrested for breaking the law.
Yup. There actually are some countries where it is against the law to deliberately obstruct a public road. How horrible!!!

Some states, too. Florida is just one example:

“Under state law, any person commits “aggravated rioting” if they congregate with 25 people or more and cause property damage in excess of $5,000, cause great bodily harm to a bystander, or “endangers the safe movement of a vehicle traveling on a public street, highway, or road” either by force or threat. An aggravated rioting charge is a second-degree felony, punishable by up to 15 years in prison.”

https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/ ... 66758.html
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Here’s what Oklahoma has to say about blocking traffic with protests:

“Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt signed a bill Wednesday granting immunity to drivers who unintentionally injure or kill protesters while attempting to flee and which stiffens penalties for demonstrators who block public roadways, according to the Oklahoma State Legislature.

The state Senate passed the Republican-sponsored legislation 38-10 last week. The bill makes it a misdemeanor punishable by up to a year in prison and a $5,000 fine for anyone who obstructs a public street during the course of a protest, according to the legislation. House Bill 1674 also states that drivers cannot be held criminally or civilly liable for killing or injuring a protestor if they are "fleeing from a riot," and there is "reasonable belief" that they are in danger.”


https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/04/22/us/o ... index.html
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Themis wrote:Those who got arrested didn't get arrested because they wanted mandates to be lifted. They got arrested for breaking the law. I doubt I could last more than and hour blocking the road where I live after police arrive.
Great point, Themis. Just like in his latest trolling post, he tries at Babylon Bee level humor saying how A-Mike would have to become some big progressive to be left alone by the moderators here. Just as the truckers are lying and misrepresenting the RCMP's actions, Binger misrepresents the Moderators as cracking down on A-Mike as due to politics, when in reality it's due to his persistent foul mouth and attacks on other posters. Binger himself probably holds the record on this forum for getting away with the most persistent personal attacks on other participants. He's very entitled, and nearly gets a free pass from the mods.

It's not just a "regular guy" tactic, good old Vladimir is doing the same thing. "The Ukraine is threatening us with nuclear weapons, we have no choice but to peacefully occupy Donbas." Basically the same logic as Canadian truckers / Binger.
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.
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Gadianton wrote:
Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:35 pm
Themis wrote:Those who got arrested didn't get arrested because they wanted mandates to be lifted. They got arrested for breaking the law. I doubt I could last more than and hour blocking the road where I live after police arrive.
Great point, Themis. Just like in his latest trolling post, he tries at Babylon Bee level humor saying how A-Mike would have to become some big progressive to be left alone by the moderators here. Just as the truckers are lying and misrepresenting the RCMP's actions, Binger misrepresents the Moderators as cracking down on A-Mike as due to politics, when in reality it's due to his persistent foul mouth and attacks on other posters. Binger himself probably holds the record on this forum for getting away with the most persistent personal attacks on other participants. He's very entitled, and nearly gets a free pass from the mods.

It's not just a "regular guy" tactic, good old Vladimir is doing the same thing. "The Ukraine is threatening us with nuclear weapons, we have no choice but to peacefully occupy Donbas." Basically the same logic as Canadian truckers / Binger.
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Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:44 pm
Chap wrote:
Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:25 pm


Yup. There actually are some countries where it is against the law to deliberately obstruct a public road. How horrible!!!
Have there been other examples of roads were blocked by protestors and there were no arrests?
It depends on which road and the duration of the blocking. Groups can get permits to hold marches on roads, which will block roads for the duration of the march. But blocking roads beyond the march route or the time period in the permit will commonly lead to arrests. Arrests are generally preceded by an order to disperse from the relevant branch of law enforcement.

We had protests over the last few years involving building new oil shipping facilities or modernizing existing ones to increase capacity. Those involved physically blocking train tracks at the entrance to oil shipping/refinery facilities (side branches, not the mainline tracks. Because they were blocking train tracks, the organizers and participants all understood that, at some point, the police would show up an arrest them if they didn't move. That's true of any protest that blocks public ways or the entrances to private property. The training is in how to get arrested in a way that minimizes the risk of injury to the protester and to law enforcement without being complicit in your own arrest. It's basically, go limp. Don't physically struggle, let them carry you to the van or car or bus or whatever.
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Re: Trucker Protest in Canada

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Gadianton wrote:
Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:35 pm
Themis wrote:Those who got arrested didn't get arrested because they wanted mandates to be lifted. They got arrested for breaking the law. I doubt I could last more than and hour blocking the road where I live after police arrive.
Great point, Themis. Just like in his latest trolling post, he tries at Babylon Bee level humor saying how A-Mike would have to become some big progressive to be left alone by the moderators here. Just as the truckers are lying and misrepresenting the RCMP's actions, Binger misrepresents the Moderators as cracking down on A-Mike as due to politics, when in reality it's due to his persistent foul mouth and attacks on other posters. Binger himself probably holds the record on this forum for getting away with the most persistent personal attacks on other participants. He's very entitled, and nearly gets a free pass from the mods.

It's not just a "regular guy" tactic, good old Vladimir is doing the same thing. "The Ukraine is threatening us with nuclear weapons, we have no choice but to peacefully occupy Donbas." Basically the same logic as Canadian truckers / Binger.
We work pretty hard to try and enforce the rules uniformly, regardless of who the person is. The notion that Binger gets a "free pass" requires having a blind eye toward the amount of time that has been spent moderating his posts.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:48 pm
Gadianton wrote:
Wed Feb 23, 2022 6:35 pm


Great point, Themis. Just like in his latest trolling post, he tries at Babylon Bee level humor saying how A-Mike would have to become some big progressive to be left alone by the moderators here. Just as the truckers are lying and misrepresenting the RCMP's actions, Binger misrepresents the Moderators as cracking down on A-Mike as due to politics, when in reality it's due to his persistent foul mouth and attacks on other posters. Binger himself probably holds the record on this forum for getting away with the most persistent personal attacks on other participants. He's very entitled, and nearly gets a free pass from the mods.

It's not just a "regular guy" tactic, good old Vladimir is doing the same thing. "The Ukraine is threatening us with nuclear weapons, we have no choice but to peacefully occupy Donbas." Basically the same logic as Canadian truckers / Binger.
We work pretty hard to try and enforce the rules uniformly, regardless of who the person is. The notion that Binger gets a "free pass" requires having a blind eye toward the amount of time that has been spent moderating his posts.
Compensation for that time will be made with steaks and beer. But not for panny. He can have a plate of poo. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Mods wrote:
Wed Feb 23, 2022 7:28 pm
We work pretty hard to try and enforce the rules uniformly, regardless of who the person is. The notion that Binger gets a "free pass" requires having a blind eye toward the amount of time that has been spent moderating his posts.
So you do.

But the fanatical dedication to trolling and disruption of the board (both Mormon and non-Mormon parts) that we are seeing from Cultellus/AtlanticMike/Binger/SirPoopalot ... and the rest ... is entirely unprecedented in the history of the board. God know why he is so obsessed with doing what he is doing, or what he gets in return for his immense expenditure of time and energy, but it is clear that the rules as drafted by Shades years back never made any provision for the degree of obsessively disruptive behaviour this person is exhibiting.
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