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[_Ceeboo]

Hey Ceebs, I'm not trying to imply something. Just straight forwardly asking if it affects reality if a person does or doesn't believe in a spirit realm.

I see, honor. I think I may have misread you.

To help clarify, what does it matter in real terms? How would you fill in the blank: A person who believes in a spirit realm of any kind is different from a person who doesn't by___________.

How they might view a variety of things that they see in the world and a variety of things that they experience in this world.

I was just honestly asking if anyone believed that a spiritual realm existed - that's all.
Thanks for the clarification.

[_Lemmie]

Hey Ceebs, I'm not trying to imply something. Just straight forwardly asking if it affects reality if a person does or doesn't believe in a spirit realm.

I see, honor. I think I may have misread you.

To help clarify, what does it matter in real terms? How would you fill in the blank: A person who believes in a spirit realm of any kind is different from a person who doesn't by___________.

How they might view a variety of things that they see in the world and a variety of things that they experience in this world.

I was just honestly asking if anyone believed that a spiritual realm existed - that's all.
Thanks for the clarification.

I actually took honor's point slightly differently then. The comment was-- is REALITY affected by belief in a spiritual realm, I believe it is not. Therefore, why ask? If just as a point of interest, or a way to get to know someone, then yes, it's an interesting question.

[_Jersey Girl]

So does anybody believe in the spiritual realm?

Ceebs, yes I do. That's probably no secret here though.

[_Ceeboo]

Hey Lemmie

I actually took honor's point slightly differently then. The comment was-- is REALITY affected by belief in a spiritual realm, I believe it is not.

(Bold mine)

You believe reality is not affected?

[_Some Schmo]

You believe reality is not affected?

Believing in spiritual things does not affect whether those spiritual things exist or not in reality. That's what they're getting at.

[_honorentheos]

So if a person who believes in a spirit realm sees and experiences the world differently than those who don't, what is that difference then?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

So if a person who believes in a spirit realm sees and experiences the world differently than those who don't, what is that difference then?

I think you're going to get a better answer out of these guys than Ceeboo:

https://www.history.com/shows/ancient-a ... episode-11

- Doc

[_Jersey Girl]

Ah come on.

[_Ceeboo]

Hey honor

So if a person who believes in a spirit realm sees and experiences the world differently than those who don't, what is that difference then?

The differences are significant.

Hypothetically, let's say that I believe in the spiritual realm and let's say that you don't.

You don't think that we could see the same things (horrific mass murders by people/governments, horrific wars, battles with addictions, terrorism, atrocities committed in the name of religion/God, vile hatred against groups of people, severe depression, massive porn industries, child sex slavery, oppression of peoples, families it utter chaos, crippling fears, etc, etc) and have different beliefs as to what possible reasons might exist for the utter violence, disgust, injustices, and destructive actions/behavior that we see around the world on a daily basis?

[_honorentheos]

Hey Ceebs,

You say above I should start by us both seeing the same things and that the difference is in in our beliefs about what causes them. The issue here is we are seeing the same things. I thought the difference was in what the person who believed in a spirit realm saw and experienced. Not that they interpreted what we both saw differently. If it's just a difference in interpretation, we're back at asking if it affects reality?