Biden needs to step aside

[yellowstone123]

New York Times editorial board urges public Democratic revolt against Biden

I"n a piece published Tuesday that rebutted the president’s defense of his candidacy in recent days, the editorial board explicitly urged Democratic leadership to publicly call for Biden to step aside and coalesce around a new nominee in order to defeat former President Donald Trump. The board described the current “whisper campaign” in the party as an inadequate attempt to convince Biden to withdraw, calling him not only “defiant” and “floundering,” but “a man in decline” trying to circumvent the reality that he is a damaged candidate."

"The board’s reenergized version of its initial call for Biden to withdraw suggests that the columnists, donors and elected officials who have led the push against the president are not yet backing down — even after dozens of Democrats fell in line with Biden this week as he has taken on a more vigorous response to criticism and calls to end his reelection campaign. In a sign of strength, Biden on Monday reaffirmed the support of his most loyal base on the Hill, the Congressional Black Caucus. But Hill Democrats are still divided over Biden’s electability and the success of his attempts so far to turn his campaign around."

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/0 ... s-00167028

[Kishkumen]

Delusional. If they know something the rest of us do not about their demand’s likelihood of stopping Trump, they should make that clear. Their opinionating with such confidence is neither reassuring nor helpful.

[Binger]

Delusional. If they know something the rest of us do not about their demand’s likelihood of stopping Trump, they should make that clear. Their opinionating with such confidence is neither reassuring nor helpful.

Everything is not about stopping Trump. Such framing is, however, good information. I don't think it is having the effect you want it to have.

By the way, are you of the opinion that you know everything or just that you know more than those who publish in the NYT? It is not clear from your comment.

I think the difference of opinions in this situation is more relevant than the actual opinion but I do also understand that many people prefer to only have one opinion available to the public.

[ceeboo]

As someone who has grown more and more skeptical of news sources (NYT included) why do you suppose that they are asking questions now? Shouldn't they have been asking these questions a long, long time ago?

Something is very fishy about all of this.

Political machines never want to let go of power - they always want more (both sides) and these behind the scenes machines are always several moves ahead. There is no way that this was a surprise. Something is up.

And where are the people who are supposed to be looking out for Biden's best interest? Who and where are the people that ought to be protecting him?

[Binger]

As someone who has grown more and more skeptical of news sources (NYT included) why do you suppose that they are asking questions now? Shouldn't they have been asking these questions a long, long time ago?

Something is very fishy about all of this.

Political machines never want to let go of power - they always want more (both sides) and these behind the scenes machines are always several moves ahead. There is no way that this was a surprise. Something is up.

And where are the people who are supposed to be looking out for Biden's best interest? Who and where are the people that ought to be protecting him?

All joking aside. Biden should ONLY step aside from the nomination if he is unfit to preside today. If he gave the plane to Kamala today and also dropped out of the 2024 election, that would be understandable. If he kept the plane for six more months but suggested someone else run in his place, there would be chaos. Despite the hysterical click-bait, so far, the process is playing out as it should. Biden won every state primary, Biden is the nominee. The end.

I am amused by the media folks pretending that Biden's dementia is new information. It feels a lot like the media pretending that nobody ever said the vaccines would not stop transmission. And a lot like the media pretending that 51 tools did not say Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation. It ain't personal, it is just retarded and funny.

[yellowstone123]

I think people need to understand that there are many Republicans that don't really want Trump in office, but the Democrats giving them Clinton in 2016 or Biden today leave them with no choice.

[Binger]

I think people need to understand that there are many Republicans that don't really want Trump in office, but the Democrats giving them Clinton in 2016 or Biden today leave them with no choice.

The same can be said about giving the Republicans Jeb Bush, Romney, and Hailey in the primaries.

[ceeboo]

Hey yellowstone,

I think people need to understand that there are many Republicans that don't really want Trump in office, but the Democrats giving them Clinton in 2016 or Biden today leave them with no choice.

I think most people understand this. In addition, I think you have described a significant number of people (R's and D's and I's) who will, no doubt, be voting for Trump in 2024. You have certainly described Ceeboo.

[Some Schmo]

I think people need to understand that there are many Republicans that don't really want Trump in office, but the Democrats giving them Clinton in 2016 or Biden today leave them with no choice.

Can you honestly give supporting evidence that Trump is a better choice than Biden or Clinton? What are your criteria?

[Kishkumen]

All joking aside. Biden should ONLY step aside from the nomination if he is unfit to preside today. If he gave the plane to Kamala today and also dropped out of the 2024 election, that would be understandable. If he kept the plane for six more months but suggested someone else run in his place, there would be chaos. Despite the hysterical click-bait, so far, the process is playing out as it should. Biden won every state primary, Biden is the nominee. The end.

Refreshingly reasonable words.