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Re: Biden needs to step aside

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Kishkumen wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:16 pm
Binger wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:54 pm
Yes.
Of your own delusions, indeed.
Yes and no, maybe. Though, the projection is tangible.
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Binger wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:24 pm
Yes and no, maybe. Though, the projection is tangible.
Your projection is definitely palpable.
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Re: Biden needs to step aside

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Kishkumen wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:33 pm
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Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:27 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You have some evidence informed arguments to throw in here, ceebs?
Evidence and informed arguments about what? You mocking and laughing at a board member that shared his/her opinion about why people might be voting for Trump? Or your suggestion that we have competent and experienced people in Biden/Harris?
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Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:23 pm
Evidence and informed arguments about what? You mocking and laughing at a board member that shared his/her opinion about why people might be voting for Trump? Or your suggestion that we have competent and experienced people in Biden/Harris?
ceeboo, I am sorry that electronic communication is difficult, but I think it is a little presumptuous of you to conclude from those emojis that I was “mocking and laughing at a board member.” I am genuinely surprised at what yellowstone had to say, and laughter is one of my standard reactions to that sort of situation. I like to be surprised, and it makes me laugh.

Now, I would be interested to know why anyone would be “forced” to vote for a many-times failed businessman with no moral compass and an obsession with his own over-the-top Playboy image instead of an experienced politician who has a track record of honorable public service.

Now, my answer to that is the confluence of the Gingrich and FOX propaganda hate machines convincing a large number of Americans that all Democrats are liberals and all liberals are communists and evil, but especially Hillary Clinton, who also now evidently worships Satan, is engaged in child trafficking, and mines these poor victims for adrenochrome. Now, if all of that were really true, sure, I would feel compelled to vote for just about anyone else, but none of that is true.

I also think that genuine hurt led people to believe in all of this nonsense. But The can’t assume that everyone who believes in some or all of that does so for exactly the same reason, and I wanted to know yellowstone’s. Yours too.

Really, anything that is illuminating in the current situation would be nice. Three laugh emoji’s and nothing else is really dissatisfying to me. It seems, in retrospect, more like your emotional reaction springing from your assumption of my motivations for laughing than the content of my post.
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Re: Biden needs to step aside

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Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:04 pm



Now, my answer to that is the confluence of the Gingrich and FOX propaganda hate machines convincing a large number of Americans that all Democrats are liberals and all liberals are communists and evil, but especially Hillary Clinton,
But you don't see the propaganda that is rampant in most of the other main-stream media outlets? CNN? MSNBC? The View? NYT? Washington Post? Late night talk shows? Hollywood? Universities? that have convinced a large number of Americans that all republicans are evil racists/nazis/homophobes - Especially Trump?
who also now evidently worships Satan, is engaged in child trafficking, and mines these poor victims for adrenochrome.
Evidently, republicans are Satan himself, we seem to not care any longer, we want our democracy to end, and we are drastically uninformed Trumpist morons who blindly follow our dictator messiah.

Your vision seems to be crystal clear as long as you are looking through a microscope - perhaps you might benefit by considering looking through a telescope from time to time. Just a suggestion.

I also think that genuine hurt led people to believe in all of this nonsense. But The can’t assume that everyone who believes in some or all of that does so for exactly the same reason, and I wanted to know yellowstone’s. Yours too.
Then maybe you should have asked, rather than dismissing with a laughing emoji? My guess is that it would have been received better. Only a guess though.
Really, anything that is illuminating in the current situation would be nice. Three laugh emoji’s and nothing else is really dissatisfying to me.
I was trying to make a point, and if the point would have been understood (it was not) then it would surely have been illuminating.
It seems, in retrospect, more like your emotional reaction springing from your assumption of my motivations for laughing than the content of my post.
Content of your post?

Yellowstone shared this post:
I think people need to understand that there are many Republicans that don't really want Trump in office, but the Democrats giving them Clinton in 2016 or Biden today leave them with no choice.

You quoted it and this is your reply:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, when you are presented with experienced, competent people, your only option is to select an incompetent, ignorant asshole as your candidate.


Is your proposed content (a.k.a. - personal opinion) that we can vote for experienced competent people (Biden/Harris) rather than an incompetent, ignorant asshole? You might see that as content. I see that as creating a politically driven self-serving narrative (framing) that attempts to illustrate how informed you are and how uninformed and moronic people who do not agree with you are.
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ceeboo wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:35 pm
Evidently, republicans are Satan himself, we seem to not care any longer, we want our democracy to end, and we are drastically uninformed Trumpist morons who blindly follow our dictator messiah.
This may certainly not be the case, but I don’t think that I’ve met anyone yet who could articulate, beyond vague and sometimes unachievable-sounding talking points or fear-mongering, why they want Trump to be back in office.
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Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:35 pm
But you don't see the propaganda that is rampant in most of the other main-stream media outlets? CNN? MSNBC? The View? NYT? Washington Post? Late night talk shows? Hollywood? Universities? that have convinced a large number of Americans that all republicans are evil racists/nazis/homophobes - Especially Trump?
Unfortunately, yes. I do see it. I would love to be free of propaganda, but our culture is swimming in two fast-food flavors of propaganda, and I find both nauseating. That said, there are certain dealbreakers for me. When Trump tried to stay in office after he lost the election, that was a total dealbreaker for me, and frankly it should have been for everybody. Because you can funnel me into your restaurant, and so I may have to eat your food for a meal or two, but if you try to keep me locked in there for life, I will do everything in my power to stay the hell away from your establishment forever.
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ceeboo wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:35 pm
Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:04 pm



Now, my answer to that is the confluence of the Gingrich and FOX propaganda hate machines convincing a large number of Americans that all Democrats are liberals and all liberals are communists and evil, but especially Hillary Clinton,
But you don't see the propaganda that is rampant in most of the other main-stream media outlets? CNN? MSNBC? The View? NYT? Washington Post? Late night talk shows? Hollywood? Universities? that have convinced a large number of Americans that all republicans are evil racists/nazis/homophobes - Especially Trump?
who also now evidently worships Satan, is engaged in child trafficking, and mines these poor victims for adrenochrome.
Evidently, republicans are Satan himself, we seem to not care any longer, we want our democracy to end, and we are drastically uninformed Trumpist morons who blindly follow our dictator messiah.

Your vision seems to be crystal clear as long as you are looking through a microscope - perhaps you might benefit by considering looking through a telescope from time to time. Just a suggestion.

I also think that genuine hurt led people to believe in all of this nonsense. But The can’t assume that everyone who believes in some or all of that does so for exactly the same reason, and I wanted to know yellowstone’s. Yours too.
Then maybe you should have asked, rather than dismissing with a laughing emoji? My guess is that it would have been received better. Only a guess though.
Really, anything that is illuminating in the current situation would be nice. Three laugh emoji’s and nothing else is really dissatisfying to me.
I was trying to make a point, and if the point would have been understood (it was not) then it would surely have been illuminating.
It seems, in retrospect, more like your emotional reaction springing from your assumption of my motivations for laughing than the content of my post.
Content of your post?

Yellowstone shared this post:
I think people need to understand that there are many Republicans that don't really want Trump in office, but the Democrats giving them Clinton in 2016 or Biden today leave them with no choice.

You quoted it and this is your reply:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, when you are presented with experienced, competent people, your only option is to select an incompetent, ignorant asshole as your candidate.


Is your proposed content (a.k.a. - personal opinion) that we can vote for experienced competent people (Biden/Harris) rather than an incompetent, ignorant asshole? You might see that as content. I see that as creating a politically driven self-serving narrative (framing) that attempts to illustrate how informed you are and how uninformed and moronic people who do not agree with you are.
Meh. Ceeboo, the questions have been asked and answered infinitely over again deja repeated countless again.

I have never met anyone that has ever met Trump. Have you? I have not met him. I saw him. I also saw Angus and Malcom Young but never met them. Whatshername here saw Mick Jagger and Keith Richards but she hasn’t met them or interacted with them. Gad has never met an actual junkyard dog or a Nazi.

Most people are going to be swayed more by the garbage and truth that is said about them than the things Gingrich says about Trump. For some reason, this simple truth is unbearable for Biden’s kool-aid delivery boys to acknowledge.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:59 pm
ceeboo wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:35 pm
But you don't see the propaganda that is rampant in most of the other main-stream media outlets? CNN? MSNBC? The View? NYT? Washington Post? Late night talk shows? Hollywood? Universities? that have convinced a large number of Americans that all republicans are evil racists/nazis/homophobes - Especially Trump?
Unfortunately, yes. I do see it. I would love to be free of propaganda, but our culture is swimming in two fast-food flavors of propaganda, and I find both nauseating. That said, there are certain dealbreakers for me. When Trump tried to stay in office after he lost the election, that was a total dealbreaker for me, and frankly it should have been for everybody. Because you can funnel me into your restaurant, and so I may have to eat your food for a meal or two, but if you try to keep me locked in there for life, I will do everything in my power to stay the hell away from your establishment forever.
That mixed metaphor doesn’t really work.

I get that Trump is not an option for you. Would never ever ask or expect you to change your mind.

I don't get why you have that position and yet you campaign for Trump and drive others to vote for him. That, I don’t get. Leaves me scratching my head. And before you deny doing that, let me use a Pulp Fiction metaphor. “Say, bigot fascist nazi insurrection one more time mothertrucker and I will vote this old man’s head off”.
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The claim that the media has convinced people that Trump is a piece of crap cracks me up. Yeah, the media is pushing propaganda by showing Trump talk. Nobody could just listen to him and figure out he's a racist, incompetent moron. They need the media to convince them, apparently. I guess the BBC and other respected media outlets worldwide are in the tank for the American left.

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