What are the chances of Trump's political survival to 2020?

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Re: What are the chances of Trump's political survival to 20

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I suspect that some of the more extreme evangelicals will not even be completely fazed by a complete collapse of our government and a blatant attempt by Russia to take over key American institutions and corporations, or even by an imminent threat of nuclear war between the USA and its adversaries, including Russia. They would tend to welcome this as fulfillment of apocalyptic prophecies presaging the imminent second coming of Christ and the end times.
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Gunnar wrote:I suspect that some of the more extreme evangelicals will not even be completely fazed by a complete collapse of our government and a blatant attempt by Russia to take over key American institutions and corporations...


Putin’s specialty when he worked with the STASI in East Germany was counter intelligence and disinformation.

He know’s his craft very well, and idiots like Ajax and Subgenius are waaaaay out of their element. See my sig line for further light and knowledge.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Gunnar wrote:I suspect that some of the more extreme evangelicals will not even be completely fazed by a complete collapse of our government and a blatant attempt by Russia to take over key American institutions and corporations...


Putin’s specialty when he worked with the STASI in East Germany was counter intelligence and disinformation.

He know’s his craft very well, and idiots like Ajax and Subgenius are waaaaay out of their element. See my sig line for further light and knowledge.

- Doc

well this explains your criticisms for Obama's Russia policy and how you defended Romney's comment during the debate... your consistency is such a great foundation for your criticisms.

and nice sig line...a knock off, but meh.
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Discussing realpolitik with someone like subgenius is akin to discussing economics with Bach. They're play-acting while the rest of us are genuine actors. You have to hand it to them, though. They're relentless in their pursuit of willful ignorance.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Image

- Doc
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And, there you are. The 2018 "American Conservative."

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One of Paul Manafort's Russian contacts has been revealed as ex-spy Victor Boyarkin, who acted as a direct link between Manafort and Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska.

Anyone want to hazard a guess why working with a spy (there are no 'ex-spies' in Russia) as a Presidential campaign manager is, I dunno, frowned upon?

eta: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/p ... Trump.html

The Trump administration announced on Wednesday that it intends to lift sanctions against the business empire of Oleg V. Deripaska, one of Russia’s most influential oligarchs, after an aggressive lobbying campaign by Mr. Deripaska’s companies.


Impeach our compromised kompromat piece of crap President. I don't even know any more...

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subgenius wrote:<picture supposedly illustrative of a pseudo-smart person, playing on a supposed equivalence of the words 'story' and 'narrative'>


Seeing this post made me realise that I don't use 'story' and 'narrative' as if they were completely interchangeable. I suspect that I am not alone in this.
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Re: What are the chances of Trump's political survival to 20

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:One of Paul Manafort's Russian contacts has been revealed as ex-spy Victor Boyarkin, who acted as a direct link between Manafort and Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska.

Anyone want to hazard a guess why working with a spy (there are no 'ex-spies' in Russia) as a Presidential campaign manager is, I dunno, frowned upon?

eta: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/p ... Trump.html

The Trump administration announced on Wednesday that it intends to lift sanctions against the business empire of Oleg V. Deripaska, one of Russia’s most influential oligarchs, after an aggressive lobbying campaign by Mr. Deripaska’s companies.


Impeach our compromised kompromat piece of crap President. I don't even know any more...

- Doc

From Time Magazine:

In his only interview with the media about those connections, Boyarkin told TIME this fall that he was in touch with Trump’s then-campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, in the heat of the presidential race on behalf of the Russian oligarch. “He owed us a lot of money,” Boyarkin says. “And he was offering ways to pay it back.”

The former Russian intelligence officer says he has been approached by the office of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is investigating possible collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign. Boyarkin’s response to those investigators? “I told them to go dig a ditch,” he says. Peter Carr, the spokesman for the Special Counsel’s Office, declined to comment. Through his spokesman, Manafort likewise declined to comment on his alleged connections with Boyarkin.


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Re: What are the chances of Trump's political survival to 20

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I think President Trump being a complete piece of worthless trash will start to dawn on more and more of his base. For example, about 380,000 federal employees are on furlough and 420,000 are working without pay as the new year approaches. Combine that with their pay freeze and boy are you going to start seeing some crap go down.

He sees everything as transactional. If he (falsely) believes all federal workers are Democratic, then giving them money is a waste, because he won't even get their vote in return. Unfortunately for him, not all federal employees are Democrats. Many are, in fact, Republican, Moderate, or Conservative to one degree or another. Trump has never had to operate in a world where he can't just walk away after screwing someone over and deal with a fresh new face the next day. In this job, you screw over your own government and, whoops, they're still here tomorrow, and will be the next day and every day for the rest of your term.

This guy is screwed. Hard. This was a huge miscalculation on his part.

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- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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