Maksutov wrote:So many fond memories, it's hard to choose. Still, I have sweet recollections of Subby's Holocaust denial.
Never denied the holocaust, just argued that it lacked actual proof of happening ...
Then I guess you are unable to state that you believe that the Holocaust, or at least the gassing of certain folks within concentration camps, occurred.
Maksutov wrote:So many fond memories, it's hard to choose. Still, I have sweet recollections of Subby's Holocaust denial.
Never denied the holocaust, just argued that it lacked actual proof of happening, at least "proof" in the same vein that other posters insist that proof flows. The context of that whole episode was clear on the matter of belief in the holocaust being an act of faith. But yeah, spin it so you can perpetuate your bigotry.
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
subgenius wrote:Never denied the holocaust, just argued that it lacked actual proof of happening, at least "proof" in the same vein that other posters insist that proof flows. The context of that whole episode was clear on the matter of belief in the holocaust being an act of faith. But yeah, spin it so you can perpetuate your bigotry.
sub's conclusion is that the Holocaust is no more believable a thing than the existence of unicorns because the nature of the proof for either is the same.
canpakes wrote: sub's conclusion is that the Holocaust is no more believable a thing than the existence of unicorns because the nature of the proof for either is the same.
The other shoe is that he also thinks it is perfectly fine to believe in the Holocaust based on faith, but this demonstrates he is also justified in believing his wackadoodle religious beliefs also based on faith. If you deny him this, then you deny Holocaust belief and that makes you Holocaust deniers. The goal of that argument is to equate the means by which he arrives at his religious beliefs with the only justified means to believe in in the Holocaust to imply that those who criticize his religious beliefs are the equivalent of Holocaust deniers. The fatal flaw in this argument is his ideas about justified belief are so moronic that people have a hard time believing that's what he's even saying and end up thinking that he's just denying the Holocaust.
Remember, this is the dude who thinks that it is inappropriate for scientists and science classes to talk about predictions or explanations because true science is just records of observations.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
subgenius wrote:Hey Doc, welcome...its fine if you want to drop in and leave an ignorant-of-context snark, because...well Doc, but feel free to expand your reality when you have some free time...maybe before/after you count your money for the day.
Not that the point of that whole discussion is a concern for your pressuposition, but yeah you got that faith.
You should try coffee. Maybe it will help you write coherent sentences.
canpakes wrote:You should try coffee. Maybe it will help you write coherent sentences.
I wrote a scathing piece on subgenius' character the other day, and then deleted it because I felt it was too harsh. I was going to attempt to be a little more measured toward him, but if what you and EA are suggesting is true, I regret having deleted it.
Man.
Between Ajax's supremacist views and now subgenius' Holocaust 'faith' argument it's just so hard to not see them for what they are.
- Doc
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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
canpakes wrote:You should try coffee. Maybe it will help you write coherent sentences.
I wrote a scathing piece on subgenius' character the other day, and the deleted it because I felt it was too harsh. I was going to attempt to be a little more measured toward him, but if what you and EA are suggesting is true, I regret having deleted it.
Man.
Between Ajax's supremacist views and now subgenius' Holocaust 'faith' argument it's just so hard to not see them for what they are.
- Doc
Yeah, i thought of the worlds greatest comeback to your inane masturbations the other day, but didn't post it because i believe the children are our future....you really got lucky on that one, whew boy. But again, ignore the context of that old thought experiment and just get back in line pops, leave the juvenile snark and self aggrandizement to EA and Pakes, they put a lot of effort, and spittle, into every post.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent