Covington Kids Exonerated from Wrong-doing

[_canpakes]

Unbelievable!

I sincerely hope that a silent majority exists in America and that the 2020 election will reject and dismiss this type of nonsensical thought.

We shall see.

Yes, the existence of people who think doing tomahawk chops and mock chanting to a Native American’s face is bad is a solid basis for wanting Donald Trump to be President. That’ll show em.

Ceeboo has already decided that he’ll vote for Trump regardless of who the opponent is - In other words, without even knowing what the options will be. He stated this in another thread. He Interprets that as sensible thought, so I don’t think that your crazy talk here is going to have an effect on his sensibilities. ; )

[_Maksutov]

Yes, the existence of people who think doing tomahawk chops and mock chanting to a Native American’s face is bad is a solid basis for wanting Donald Trump to be President. That’ll show 'em.

Ceeboo has already decided that he’ll vote for Trump regardless of who the opponent is - In other words, without even knowing what the options will be. He stated this in another thread. He Interprets that as sensible thought, so I don’t think that your crazy talk here is going to have an effect on his sensibilities. ; )

[_Themis]

Page 12 of the thread and almost complete silence about the 800 pound elephant that has been in the room from word go............ The actual disgusting and vile actions of the real bigots and racists in the situation. (Hint for my friends on the radical left with severe vision impairment - It's not the high school kids wearing red hats)

I assume you are referring to the Black Israelite's? If so, do you think they are being somewhat ignored for the same reason we tend to ignore the westboro baptists types? That being we tend to ignore the crazies.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Page 12 of the thread and almost complete silence about the 800 pound elephant that has been in the room from word go............ The actual disgusting and vile actions of the real bigots and racists in the situation. (Hint for my friends on the radical left with severe vision impairment - It's not the high school kids wearing red hats)

I assume you are referring to the Black Israelite's? If so, do you think they are being somewhat ignored for the same reason we tend to ignore the westboro baptists types? That being we tend to ignore the crazies.

Westboro gets far, far, far more coverage and hate for their activities. Then again I don't believe the BI's actually go to funerals to protest so I'm not sure it's an equivalent comparison.

- Doc

[_Themis]

Westboro gets far, far, far more coverage and hate for their activities. Then again I don't believe the BI's actually go to funerals to protest so I'm not sure it's an equivalent comparison.

- Doc

Perhaps not, but we do tend to ignore a lot of the crazies out there. Ceeboo seems to be complaining that the BI's are not getting enough attention.

[_Res Ipsa]

Well I'm certainly not including Twitter as the media. Legitimate news outlets report on events and people will judge and convict in their own minds. But it seems to me that judgment already been passed as soon as the first video clip went viral, well before any of the legit news outlets reported on it. If there were lies, it was by Phillips. I posted the lawsuit and it is filled with vague allegations of lies without really providing concrete examples where Washington Post said X was a definitive fact and then X turning out not to be a definitive fact. It was more along the lines of basically saying, the "gist" of what Washington Post said was X and in our investigation we concluded X is false.

That's not an accurate assessment of the complaint or defamation law. There is no requirement that the Post say that something is a "definitive fact" before it becomes subject to a defamation claim. The relevant elements are 1) false fact 2) that is published 3) negligently 4) causing damage to reputation. There are all kinds of sub-rules that apply, and the current standards for journalistic practice will determine the negligence element. Where I think the Post may have a problem is that it published statements of some witnesses that are contradicted by the long recording. If the paper had the long recording, why didn't it point that out? If it didn't, did it look for other recordings? Did the reporter have a reason to doubt the truth of some of the statements? If so, why wan't the basis for that doubt included in the story?

I would not be surprised to see the kid win this in front of a jury, at least with respect to some of the published versions of the story.

[_Ceeboo]

Page 12 of the thread and almost complete silence about the 800 pound elephant that has been in the room from word go............ The actual disgusting and vile actions of the real bigots and racists in the situation. (Hint for my friends on the radical left with severe vision impairment - It's not the high school kids wearing red hats)

I assume you are referring to the Black Israelite's?

I am.

If so, do you think they are being somewhat ignored for the same reason we tend to ignore the westboro baptists types? That being we tend to ignore the crazies.

Perhaps but I don't think so.

I don't really think they are being ignored per se - I think that their actions/behaviors are viewed as non important or insignificant. The critical thing is the color of their skin, their gender, their sexual orientation, etc. In other words - they are not seen as individuals, they are seen as an example of a victimized group and their specific actions play no role in the most important thing of all - the lens that literlly everything is seen through - freaking identity politics.

by the way - Among other things, one of the most destructive things that has happened to America is that we no longer think/behave/act like Americans (From many one - one of the most valuable foundational things that made America what it is - the greatest country on the planet) Rather we are now divided into countless hyper conscious groups . . . Asian Americans, African Americans, Latin Americans, Chinese Americans, etc, etc. . . What the hell was wrong with simply American? And the very same thing has happened with social justice - It has had significant and serious negative impacts on this country. Justice ought not have a modifier and when you add one, you dilute, distort and destroy real justice.

[_Ceeboo]

Perhaps not, but we do tend to ignore a lot of the crazies out there. Ceeboo seems to be complaining that the BI's are not getting enough attention.

No, that's not what Ceeboo is doing. Ceeboo is trying to shine some more light on a specific event that is already glowing in bright neon that is two inches from your pupils.

In other words - I was trying to help.

[_Kevin Graham]

FOX News Chris Wallace actually gets it right. Focusing on Smollett is really just a method for the Right Wing to take focus off of those who are responsible. Feel like I'm in the twilight zone because he's downplaying it while CNN and MSNBC can't stop talking about it. Meanwhile, our dumpster fire is still destroying the country from within.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U_QZoEPqJY

It amazes me that just yesterday we learned that a member of the Coast Guard was arrested for stockpiling arms to plot a murder spree of dozens of Democrat politicians and Liberal Media figures.

It should be at the top of every news cycle every night for at least a month that is how significant this story really is. Mass assassination plot by whom? A Trump supporting Right Winger.

But already it is being drained out even in left wing media because some obscure idiot in hollywood perpetuated a hate crime hoax. This is like denying rape exists because someone falsely claimed to have been raped. That's basically what the Right is doing right now. Making huge mountains out of tiny molehills with the Smollett and Sandmann stories.

Because at the end of the day, it really is just about politics for them. They don't care about right, wrong, innocent people suffering libel or even death.

[_Jersey Girl]

In other words - they are not seen as individuals, they are seen as an example of a victimized group

Like how I instantly saw the Native Americans.