Trump is not a fascist

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Re: Trump is not a fascist

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Cake wrote:
What’s his plan, Markk? (I’m surprised that you haven’t figured out yet why I’m asking this) : )
Markk replied: I have given you multiple examples of his plan. If you some sort of cryptic plan I am unaware of and need to figure out out please elaborate on this plan?
Cakes the Replied: Actions are not plans. I’m not even sure that they’re concepts of a plan. You’re just telling me that Trump has done X or Y and that this constitutes a plan for Z.
Again if you have some sort of secret plan or agenda of Trump, that you think I have not figured out just tell me?

in my opinion it is first MAGA, stated that months ago....within that plan are certainly Made in America, which we have been discussing and he is certainly moving that forward with policy and as you wrote actions, securing the Border, again policy and action. Deporting illegal immigrants, in action with policy and action, with a focused start on criminals and gangs, again by policy and action. Peace in Ukraine Russia war....in negotiations and hopefully moving towards a resolution and reconstruction and even securing repayment with the mineral deal if ratified. Tariffs, in progress per his executive order. Tough on crime, reforming education, DOGE, expanding energy including coal, keeping men out of women sports...etc....all by executive order and in action as his plan.

So state your secret plan...I say it again, you may not like his Make America Great Plan, but it is a plan, and he is a leader. I also again ask you what the lefts plan is, and will add who is the lefts leading candite to lead that plan?
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Trump has a stupid, unAmerican plan that he executes incompetently. What’s not to like?
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
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Markk:How (are the tariffs) a shytshow? Countries are coming to the table, the border is secure, and corporations around the world are pledging trillions of dollars in investment in and for US manufacturing?

Cakes:Markk, I don’t think that drug companies, as example, make infrastructure investments worth billions of dollars based on 145% tariff increases levied on China or upending our trade with Canada two weeks ago. These are decisions that take months or years of planning. Some of the companies making additional investments into existing infrastructure even state that the decisions are related to the 2017 tax overhaul.
HuH, ..."Last week, Lilly unveiled an ambitious plan to invest $27 billion to build four new production facilities in the U.S. Three of the factories will focus on active pharmaceutical ingredients, and the fourth will produce injectable drugs. Any state may consider a submission, a Lilly spokesperson told Fierce Pharma.Mar 5, 2025"
https://www.fiercepharma.com/manufactur ... pplication

April 10 (Reuters) - Swiss drugmaker Novartis (NOVN.S), opens new tab said on Thursday it plans to spend $23 billion to build and expand 10 facilities in the U.S., as it grapples with renewed threats of drug import duties from the Trump administration.

https://www.investopedia.com/novartis-p ... s-11713217

GENEVA (AP) — Swiss pharmaceuticals powerhouse Roche announced Tuesday it plans to invest $50 billion in the United States over the next five years, creating 12,000 jobs.

The Basel-based company, whose array of products includes cancer medicines and multiple sclerosis treatment Ocrevus, said the investment would go toward high-tech research and development sites and new manufacturing facilities in places including California, Indiana, Massachusetts and Pennsylvania.


https://apnews.com/article/roche-switze ... a01d079ae8

Lol, yes it takes time to plan, build, and hire personnel for new factories,...i.e. jobs....and Trump's plan includes deregulation to hurry the process.

What companies do you have in mind that made decision in 2017, During Trump's last administration when he lowered corporate taxes? CFR please. Lets take a look at those and compare them with the newest pledges.
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cakes: That said, what’s up with avoiding the earlier question about how you’d react if ICE shows up to toss your non-citizen employees into the Deportation Fun Bus?
Why are you hiring non-citizens?
Why are you protecting people who broke the law?
Why did you hire them in the first place? You couldn’t find any Americans to do the job?
1. I answered that, and they are not my employees, they are mostly laborers that work for the same company I work for, and as I wrote they come and go.

2. I don't hire anyone , my company does. As a manager when I recommend a new hire, they are always in management, or a skilled position and always here legally.

3. I am not at all, I do not own the company. What do you do for a living?

4a. I didn't and haven't as I wrote.

4b. I have, every hire I have interviewed and sent to HR, have been and are here legally.

What do you do for a living? If retired, what did you do?
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Markk wrote:
Sat May 03, 2025 1:37 am
Again if you have some sort of secret plan or agenda of Trump, that you think I have not figured out just tell me?
You can’t figure out what Trump’s plan is, either?
Markk wrote:
Sat May 03, 2025 2:14 am
Markk, I don’t think that drug companies, as example, make infrastructure investments worth billions of dollars based on 145% tariff increases levied on China or upending our trade with Canada two weeks ago. These are decisions that take months or years of planning. Some of the companies making additional investments into existing infrastructure even state that the decisions are related to the 2017 tax overhaul.
What companies do you have in mind that made decision in 2017, During Trump's last administration when he lowered corporate taxes? CFR please. Lets take a look at those and compare them with the newest pledges.
Apparently, you aren’t reading your own links.
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Sat May 03, 2025 2:34 am
That said, what’s up with avoiding the earlier question about how you’d react if ICE shows up to toss your non-citizen employees into the Deportation Fun Bus?
Why are you hiring non-citizens?
Why are you protecting people who broke the law?
Why did you hire them in the first place? You couldn’t find any Americans to do the job?
1. I answered that, …
Link?
2. I don't hire anyone , my company does. As a manager when I recommend a new hire, they are always in management, or a skilled position and always here legally.
Why does your company hire non-citizens?
3. I am not at all, I do not own the company. What do you do for a living?
I don’t hire non-citizens to fatten my profits and then complain about how their presence is ruining the country.

And you?
4a. I didn't and haven't as I wrote.
Why did your company hire non-citizens over citizens? What prevented you and your company from choosing Americans over border-crossers?
4b. I have, every hire I have interviewed and sent to HR, have been and are here legally.
Why did you recommend non-citizens over citizens? What prevented you and your company from choosing Americans over border-crossers?
What do you do for a living? If retired, what did you do?
Retired? Lol. : D. That’s not happening any time soon. And I’ll be around to help preserve due process for as long as I can.
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Markk wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 3:23 am
Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Apr 23, 2025 5:52 pm
The the Supreme Court has ruled that Trump is in defiance of the standing court order. Period. End to it.

Sorry, but you don't know jack about the case. I'd like to see a primary source that determined Mr. Garcia was a member of MS-13.

Dish it up, buddy.
Hey Jersey Girl,

It is debatable whether or not he is in defiance. The court told him to facilitate bringing him back to the state, which, as Garcia being a citizen of El Salvador, and a gang member according to El Salvador, and their laws, they have every right to keep him in his country and incarcerated.

I have shown the primary sources, several times Jersey Girl. Two judges and a DHS deportation officer among others. Jersey Girl, he was on is way to being deported, partly because he was identified as a MS-13 gang member,....and because he claimed asylum, because he would be in danger of other gangs, he was given what is called protection.

https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline

Also a few days ago, it came out that he was pulled over in Tennessee for speeding, with 8 other persons in his vehicle, with no luggage, and he told the officers he was taking them to Maryland for construction, again with no luggage. He told the officers that the truck belonged to his construction boss. Today, if what I am reading is correct, it turns out that the truck is registered to a Jose Ramon-Hernandez Reyes, allegedly a self-admitted human trafficker.

He wore a hat that is often associated with MS-13. He had a sweatshirt that had a illustration that is common with gangs, and he has a tattoo on his leg with a devil with horns that is an MS-13 symbol, along with the tattoo on his knuckles that you pasted on another post, that may or may not refer to MS-13.

There's now a hand written complaint by a person that claimed to be the father of Garcia's wife two previous children, who said he was worried that she was dating a gang member.

He was arrested in a Home Depot parking lot, throwing pot under a car, with validated MS-13 members.

On top of all that, besides he was in the US illegally, he beat the crap out of his wife, made her bleed and gave her a black eye, in a hand written signed complaint by his wife.

So Jersey Girl, I can back up everything I wrote here, and I have already done so with most of it, but I encourage you do the homework on your own, don't believe me, but at least check it out on your own.

That said, what kind of person do you believe Garcia is, and why? Do you just believe this is all a conspiracy, that two federal judges gave him deportation orders 6 years ago, and a protection grant, because he was a member of MS-13, is just a lie?
Jersey Girl, let me add this to the list, wait for the audio of Abrego's wife.

https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/20 ... 400404007/

Also, his being pulled over in Tennessee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTm5_Cf ... rt_radio=1

Keep in mind the "construction workers" coming from Texas to eventually Maryland, had no luggage, and Abrego also had a large sum of cash on him.
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Markk wrote:
Sat May 03, 2025 3:11 pm
Jersey Girl, let me add this to the list,
Markk, driving without luggage, wearing extremely popular headwear, being found in the vicinity of someone that might be a gang member and claiming that you think that you saw someone toss something under a car that strangely couldn’t be located aren’t grounds for ignoring due process. Nor is carrying ‘large amount of cash’; just ask Kristi Noem about that one.

These sorts of things can’t bother you too much if you’re happy to vote in as President a man with 34 fraud convictions, who has also been in court for sexual abuse and housing discrimination. You still idolize that guy. : D
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canpakes wrote:
Sat May 03, 2025 4:33 pm
Markk wrote:
Sat May 03, 2025 3:11 pm
Jersey Girl, let me add this to the list,
Markk, driving without luggage, wearing extremely popular headwear, being found in the vicinity of someone that might be a gang member and claiming that you think that you saw someone toss something under a car that strangely couldn’t be located aren’t grounds for ignoring due process. Nor is carrying ‘large amount of cash’; just ask Kristi Noem about that one.

These sorts of things can’t bother you too much if you’re happy to vote in as President a man with 34 fraud convictions, who has also been in court for sexual abuse and housing discrimination. You still idolize that guy. : D
Lol, you forgot a few things, like waking your wife up in the middle of the night with a punch to the face, and throwing your boots at her and ripping off her clothes.

You are failing point after point cakes.

Carry on.
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Markk has become Droopy. All he needs is a thesaurus fetish, and he’s there.
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Markk wrote:
Sat May 03, 2025 8:52 pm
Carry on.
Due process, Markk.
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