Biden needs to step aside

[Binger]

As of right now, I'd take that bet. Barring the kind of major, catastrophic health event the good Dr. Steuss has alluded to I just don't see him stepping away. Post debate polling hasn't showing it getting any worse than the initial slide, which is actually pretty impressive given the sheer amount of negative press he is taking over it. There are indications that the Democrats shift towards tying Trump to Project 2025 is gaining ground, along with the opening up of further Epstein documents that don't play well for Trump. Given that and the still relatively long time period before the actual Election I truly believe they think they can get across the finish line.

Again, this isn't saying yours (and lots of folks) concerns about him aren't valid or that a potential change might actually work, just that the campaign is trying to get out there "you're stuck with us now move on" and I don't see anything that makes me think that will change unless their hand is truly forced.

Yeah, I agree that things have calmed down for Biden and it looks like the party has fallen inline behind him. I still think he's going to be in trouble. I'm guessing that, lurking under the relatively calm surface, there are many who are getting their houses in order as they're waiting to spring. Biden's problem is that he can't have even one more episode that gives supporters reason to doubt--and I think that it's inevitable that he will have, at the least, that one more episode.

I'm afraid that the Epstein line of inquiry is going to fizzle. Preliminary glances at the papers seem to show that Trump doesn't appear as prominently as at first might have been suggested. I hope the look into Project 25 does something--but, again, I have my doubts. The subject may be too policy-oriented for voters to care about. Let's face it, if voters still think that the president controls the economy (which many of them do), they're not going to get into the weeds about a Project 2025, a plan that Trump denies ever hearing about.

Anyway, I hope that I'm wrong and you're right--and that a fair wind is going to blow in Biden's direction. Meanwhile, I'll continue to hope for the best--in whatever form that takes.

Everytime someone fantasizes about a conspiracy about 2025 and says “2025” kittens die and Biden has an exuberance of bloodflow that removes wrinkles. Everytime someone says “2025” that happens. Imagine when it is “2025”.

[canpakes]

Everytime someone fantasizes about a conspiracy about 2025 and says “2025” kittens die and Biden has an exuberance of bloodflow that removes wrinkles. Everytime someone says “2025” that happens. Imagine when it is “2025”.

So much talk of conspiracies and dead kittens from you. : )
Thanksgiving dinner conversations in the Binger household must be interesting, as might also be the mysterious ‘side dishes’.

So, for the sake of the kittens, here’s a link to the text of Project 2025:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... ve-promise

[Binger]

Does 2025 mention an insurrection in 2025 or later than 2025 because 2025 might be too late for the 2025 insurrection?

[Doctor Steuss]

[...]
I'm afraid that the Epstein line of inquiry is going to fizzle. Preliminary glances at the papers seem to show that Trump doesn't appear as prominently as at first might have been suggested.
[...]

Washington Post just did a kind of summary analysis (ended up giving Rep. Ted Lieu Four Pinocchios). That said, I don't think the Epstein angle would bring about any fruit with potential voters, even if it had legs and wasn't being oversold by Democrats. Trump has already been documented (and bragged about) walking in on children getting dressed. He's already been found liable for being a rapist. He's already bragged about sexually assaulting women on tape. If none of that swayed people (and it certainly doesn't seem to have in some circles), I don't think there being something more definitive tying him to Epstein's proclivities would suddenly be the tipping point.

Besides, Biden smells people, and has some healthy physical boundary issues. So, who cares if Trump got his jollies off walking in on half naked kids, assaulted a myriad of women, and fantasizes about his own daughter? Biden does a creepy smelling thing!!111!!1!

[Jersey Girl]

Can anyone post the text of the NYT article about Biden stepping down and it's new essay on Trump unfit to lead, please? I'd like to read them side by side so to speak.

[canpakes]

Does 2025 mention an insurrection in 2025 or later than 2025 because 2025 might be too late for the 2025 insurrection?

I don’t think so, but it may be because the 2021 insurrection was poorly executed, and the P2025 team is still working out a better plan for the next one. Maybe they can dress Laura Loomer up in the Shaman headgear this time; she would definitely be scarier looking than the bald ex-hipster guy.

[Xenophon]

Yeah, I agree that things have calmed down for Biden and it looks like the party has fallen inline behind him. I still think he's going to be in trouble. I'm guessing that, lurking under the relatively calm surface, there are many who are getting their houses in order as they're waiting to spring. Biden's problem is that he can't have even one more episode that gives supporters reason to doubt--and I think that it's inevitable that he will have, at the least, that one more episode.

I'm afraid that the Epstein line of inquiry is going to fizzle. Preliminary glances at the papers seem to show that Trump doesn't appear as prominently as at first might have been suggested. I hope the look into Project 25 does something--but, again, I have my doubts. The subject may be too policy-oriented for voters to care about. Let's face it, if voters still think that the president controls the economy (which many of them do), they're not going to get into the weeds about a Project 2025, a plan that Trump denies ever hearing about.

Anyway, I hope that I'm wrong and you're right--and that a fair wind is going to blow in Biden's direction. Meanwhile, I'll continue to hope for the best--in whatever form that takes.

Make no mistake, you and I are in 100% alignment that it will be an arduous and uphill battle. Biden will have to execute at a very high level to have any hope of beating the criticism. His campaign team seems to have a playbook for how to do that. The early stuff from the NATO conference looks good and I think a solid performance in his solo press conference today is another big piece of that. That said I do think it will be important for Democrats to truly rally around him to keep that up. I'm not talking about sycophant levels of worship here, but not eating your own a few months before the election seems a good first step.

Project 2025 might feel too in the weeds but I think with some solid messaging you can get the high-level points out there. You don't have to get into the specifics to use the looming "bloodless" revolution as a tool against Trump. You also may very well be right about the Epstein (honestly if the previous behaviors didn't get you I'm not sure these would either) but you don't have to change too many folks' minds to shift an election so I'll take anything I can get.

[Binger]

[...]
I'm afraid that the Epstein line of inquiry is going to fizzle. Preliminary glances at the papers seem to show that Trump doesn't appear as prominently as at first might have been suggested.
[...]

Washington Post just did a kind of summary analysis (ended up giving Rep. Ted Lieu Four Pinocchios). That said, I don't think the Epstein angle would bring about any fruit with potential voters, even if it had legs and wasn't being oversold by Democrats. Trump has already been documented (and bragged about) walking in on children getting dressed. He's already been found liable for being a rapist. He's already bragged about sexually assaulting women on tape. If none of that swayed people (and it certainly doesn't seem to have in some circles), I don't think there being something more definitive tying him to Epstein's proclivities would suddenly be the tipping point.

Besides, Biden smells people, and has some healthy physical boundary issues. So, who cares if Trump got his jollies off walking in on half naked kids, assaulted a myriad of women, and fantasizes about his own daughter? Biden does a creepy smelling thing!!111!!1!

Uh, for a minute there I didn't think this was a joke. Whew. You almost got me, man. 2025.

2025. It ain't what you say. If anyone could cast a stone, they would. 2025.0

[Binger]

Yeah, I agree that things have calmed down for Biden and it looks like the party has fallen inline behind him. I still think he's going to be in trouble. I'm guessing that, lurking under the relatively calm surface, there are many who are getting their houses in order as they're waiting to spring. Biden's problem is that he can't have even one more episode that gives supporters reason to doubt--and I think that it's inevitable that he will have, at the least, that one more episode.

I'm afraid that the Epstein line of inquiry is going to fizzle. Preliminary glances at the papers seem to show that Trump doesn't appear as prominently as at first might have been suggested. I hope the look into Project 25 does something--but, again, I have my doubts. The subject may be too policy-oriented for voters to care about. Let's face it, if voters still think that the president controls the economy (which many of them do), they're not going to get into the weeds about a Project 2025, a plan that Trump denies ever hearing about.

Anyway, I hope that I'm wrong and you're right--and that a fair wind is going to blow in Biden's direction. Meanwhile, I'll continue to hope for the best--in whatever form that takes.

Make no mistake, you and I are in 100% alignment that it will be an arduous and uphill battle. Biden will have to execute at a very high level to have any hope of beating the criticism. His campaign team seems to have a playbook for how to do that. The early stuff from the NATO conference looks good and I think a solid performance in his solo press conference today is another big piece of that. That said I do think it will be important for Democrats to truly rally around him to keep that up. I'm not talking about sycophant levels of worship here, but not eating your own a few months before the election seems a good first step.

Project 2025 might feel too in the weeds but I think with some solid messaging you can get the high-level points out there. You don't have to get into the specifics to use the looming "bloodless" revolution as a tool against Trump. You also may very well be right about the Epstein (honestly if the previous behaviors didn't get you I'm not sure these would either) but you don't have to change too many folks' minds to shift an election so I'll take anything I can get.

Saying 2025 in 2024 may be exactly what 2025 needs. The more we say it, the younger Biden gets!

[Binger]

Yeah, I agree that things have calmed down for Biden and it looks like the party has fallen inline behind him. I still think he's going to be in trouble. I'm guessing that, lurking under the relatively calm surface, there are many who are getting their houses in order as they're waiting to spring. Biden's problem is that he can't have even one more episode that gives supporters reason to doubt--and I think that it's inevitable that he will have, at the least, that one more episode.

I'm afraid that the Epstein line of inquiry is going to fizzle. Preliminary glances at the papers seem to show that Trump doesn't appear as prominently as at first might have been suggested. I hope the look into Project 25 does something--but, again, I have my doubts. The subject may be too policy-oriented for voters to care about. Let's face it, if voters still think that the president controls the economy (which many of them do), they're not going to get into the weeds about a Project 2025, a plan that Trump denies ever hearing about.

Anyway, I hope that I'm wrong and you're right--and that a fair wind is going to blow in Biden's direction. Meanwhile, I'll continue to hope for the best--in whatever form that takes.

Make no mistake, you and I are in 100% alignment that it will be an arduous and uphill battle. Biden will have to execute at a very high level to have any hope of beating the criticism. His campaign team seems to have a playbook for how to do that. The early stuff from the NATO conference looks good and I think a solid performance in his solo press conference today is another big piece of that. That said I do think it will be important for Democrats to truly rally around him to keep that up. I'm not talking about sycophant levels of worship here, but not eating your own a few months before the election seems a good first step.

Project 2025 might feel too in the weeds but I think with some solid messaging you can get the high-level points out there. You don't have to get into the specifics to use the looming "bloodless" revolution as a tool against Trump. You also may very well be right about the Epstein (honestly if the previous behaviors didn't get you I'm not sure these would either) but you don't have to change too many folks' minds to shift an election so I'll take anything I can get.

Is there a reason that my responses to you are not approved?

Look at what they are saying about 2025? Can you believe this?