Obama = bad?

[_Sam Harris]

The fruits of salvation come after death. Sorry, but bad analogy.

You're coming across as an immature kid who hasn't seen or experienced a thing. If you're so interested in learning, sit back and do so for a few more years. Your opinions really betray your ignorance.

And yes, you are conspiring. Young college boys with nothing else to do often do that.

There's been no change for the better? Seriously, I'm finding it hard to take YOU seriously. Stop it with the pseudo-intellectualism.

If you want all the world's problems to be solved, that's not going to happen. But the fact that a group of people who were brought here against their will and made to be slaves have seen one of their own elected president is progress in and of itself. Obama now has the same challege that has faced every president before him...improve this country. Some succeed, some do not. But it is a sign of good things to come when a nation that has been divided over race and culture for so long could look past that in such an instance.

If you don't know what a FAFSA is, then you really are a spoiled little boy. Look it up. And FYI, unless you are 24, have a kid, are a ward of the state, serve in the military, along with a bunch of other "criteria", you have to have your parents sign that form and say how much THEY make, so that you can get funds for school. I had to wait. My mom blatantly refused to sign the form. Not to mention, my mom is rich, so I wouldn't have gotten anything anyways. But I waited, and I'm glad I did. I appreciated the gift of education, instead of thinking I had a right to my parents or someone else paying my way through school.

*sigh* Kids...I know one thing, my son is not going to be raised with mentalities such as this. Oh, and go abroad one day. You'd learn a lot. Especially about how kids act in countries where college is free. Unlike here, most of them take it seriously.

Tell me how a black man being elected president is history repeating itself? And what is wrong with change?

Seriously, if you are about learning, sit back and do so for a while.

[_GoodK]

Ageism is a real problem these days.

Exhibit A: Sam Harris

**sigh** condescending posts and trumpet blowing **sigh**

[_Brenton]

It is history a black man being elected president -- but that's all that's groundbreaking about it.

unless you are 24, have a kid, are a ward of the state, serve in the military,

Well for one the military is far from an honorable institution because it's a bloddy pawn.
Having a child is not an achievement because anyone who is fertile or able to adopt can do that.
Age is nothing, have you ever spoken to a closed minded religious fanatic?
And any position of government can be achieved by anyone, you've just gotta -want- it. ;)

I know people, who live in countries where education is not a costly thing. They don't "act differently" as you say, and that's because people are the same in virtually every country.
People don't act conditionally, towards something that is normal to them.

We can solve all the worlds problems, well most of them. We just need to get rid of money as an instrument of debt, and politics. What we need is a technologically based society, because everything you have is technology. The hot water, your house, your computer, a table, a kettle, a tv, a newspaper, a window, a carpet, sunglasses, laser surgery, injections, ... it's all technology.

And thank goodness we're starting to have a global awakening. Whether you like it, or not.

[_Mister Scratch]

We can solve all the worlds problems, well most of them. We just need to get rid of money as an instrument of debt, and politics. What we need is a technologically based society, because everything you have is technology. The hot water, your house, your computer, a table, a kettle, a tv, a newspaper, a window, a carpet, sunglasses, laser surgery, injections, ... it's all technology.

And thank goodness we're starting to have a global awakening. Whether you like it, or not.

Dear Brenton---

With all due respect, what on earth are you talking about? It seems as if you are describing the world as represented by The Jetsons.

[_Sam Harris]

The kid is a just that, a kid, an idealist, and far from reality. He's obviously in pursuit of intellectualism, has read a book or two, and taken a few ideas from each to shape his worldview...which is really distorted.

Grownups take reality and work with it. Little fresh in college infants think they can save the world...then get mad and turn isolationist when that doesn't work. It's everyone else's fault then, instead of theirs for being so blind.

Brenton, you may KNOW people who live in other countries, but you haven't LIVED there yourself and had the experiences. Please stop thinking that all the traveling and learning you need to do comes from books. You have some growing to do.

P.S. I hate the FAFSA and the restrictions the DoE put on it. It screwed up my plans.

[_Angus McAwesome]

The kid is a just that, a kid, an idealist, and far from reality. He's obviously in pursuit of intellectualism, has read a book or two, and taken a few ideas from each to shape his worldview...which is really distorted.

So basically, instead of attacking his arguments you're dismissing them because he's a "kid". Glad to see the board has such wonderful standards in regards to debate practices.

Grownups take reality and work with it. Little fresh in college infants think they can save the world...then get mad and turn isolationist when that doesn't work. It's everyone else's fault then, instead of theirs for being so blind.

Which is precisely why you're attempting to pull a BS appeal to authority based on how old you are compared to him. Instead of debating points he makes, you say "Hey, I'm older then you and therefore know better by virtue of being an old fart". This is especially sad when you see what a complete and total loon Brenton is. The little idiot practically hands you everything you need to discredit his arguments based solely on their lack of merit without even having to involve a single fallacy.

Yeah, real grown up of you there, Sammy.

P.S. I hate the FAFSA and the restrictions the DoE put on it. It f****d up my plans.

Wait, weren't you just saying a few posts back about how you could join the military and get your college paid for?

Also, you do understand that Brenton isn't an American and FAFSA doesn't exist down there, right?

[_Brenton]

With all due respect, what on earth are you talking about? It seems as if you are describing the world as represented by The Jetsons.

I'm talking reality and I'm sad you can't see that.

Also, you do understand that Brenton isn't an American and FAFSA doesn't exist down there, right?

Is FAFSA like HEX tax? Where you go to university, but don't pay any course fee's until you're earning 40,000 dollars? That's how we do it here.
Or you chose to pay it yourself.

[_Mister Scratch]

With all due respect, what on earth are you talking about? It seems as if you are describing the world as represented by The Jetsons.

I'm talking reality and I'm sad you can't see that.

Oh? Well then, by all means, show it to me.

Also, you do understand that Brenton isn't an American and FAFSA doesn't exist down there, right?

Is FAFSA like HEX tax? Where you go to university, but don't pay any course fee's until you're earning 40,000 dollars? That's how we do it here.
Or you chose to pay it yourself.

I am stunned that you don't know what FAFSA is. Obviously, the "reality" you're talking about doesn't include things like FAFSA. Lucky you.

[_Angus McAwesome]

Ok, Scratch, he is not an American. They do not have FAFSA in his country.