Obama sides with Chavez style "democracy"

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Re: Obama sides with Chavez style "democracy"

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JohnStuartMill wrote:You see no evidence because you have the unfortunate handicap of being born to inbred Mormon yokels.


And what is your excuse for being an Obamatard?

Where did you study economics? BYU?


BYU is better than Biden, the guy you helped elect as VP.
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JohnStuartMill wrote:bcspace, please stop acting like you know what you're talking about.


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Re: Obama sides with Chavez style "democracy"

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Calculus Crusader wrote:
JohnStuartMill wrote:You see no evidence because you have the unfortunate handicap of being born to inbred Mormon yokels.


And what is your excuse for being an Obamatard?
Heh. Would you like to debate economics and foreign policy, CC?

Where did you study economics? BYU?


BYU is better than Biden, the guy you helped elect as VP.
Yes, let's please make this about which party had the dumber veep candidate.
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JohnStuartMill wrote:Heh. Would you like to debate economics and foreign policy, CC?


It wouldn't be the first time I confronted you on Obamanomics. As for foreign policy, I am not a neoconservative, so I'm not sure we'd have much to argue about on that topic.
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Zayela tried to rally the mob by setting foot in Honduras for 30 minutes. Oh he says he doesn't want to cause a fight, but that is exactly what he's hoping for. He wants to be a martyr without actually being one. The people of Honduras are being very brave about this. Let's hope they don't succumb to the Obama/Chavez sponsored UN resolution....
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Calculus Crusader wrote:
JohnStuartMill wrote:Heh. Would you like to debate economics and foreign policy, CC?


It wouldn't be the first time I confronted you on Obamanomics.
I'd love to have an economics debate with you, but I doubt you'd be up to the challenge. All I remember you ever saying about economics and Obama is that some prominent economists have problems with Obama's economic plan. Someone without a lot of knowledge about economics could make that argument pretty easily, which I suspect gives me a clue as to what kind of opponent you'd be.

As for foreign policy, I am not a neoconservative, so I'm not sure we'd have much to argue about on that topic.

I think that foreign policy debates between "idealists" and "realists" are overblown. I consider myself an idealist, but I'd also say that that's not incompatible with realism -- in fact, that's why I can support Obama, who fits pretty squarely into the realist tradition. So, yeah: unless you're a paleoconservative non-interventionist, I don't think we'd have much to argue about here except things around the edges.
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Yep. A socialist armed revolution in Honduras is brewing with US, EU, and UN help. He's camped out on the border now. Obama knows full well that by withdrawing economic aid will give comfort and encouragement to his supporters. Hundreds or thousands will die in the creation of a socialist Chavez-like tryanny and supporters like JSM will have yet more blood on their hands......
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And when that doesn't happen, I'll get a retraction and a sincere apology from bcspace?

LOL.
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Re: Obama sides with Chavez style "democracy"

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JSM thinks he's an expert on economics, and his evidence for this is his support for a moron who is running this country into the ground in record time?

Economics is an inexact science and is about as predictable as the weather; what really matters are results. Obama has gotten nothing right so far. Everything he has done has had a negative effect.

I guess they'll have to continue to milk the "but we inherited this from Bush" excuse just a little longer. Things took a drastic turn for the worse when Obama took over, and for good reason.

Where are all these jobs he promised? Why is all the "stimulus" money being used to bankroll the long sought after, pet social projects proposed by his democrat cohorts? He is exploiting the crisis to serve his own political agenda, claiming to use all this money to help the economy.

Where are the results?

Just how high does the unemployment rate have to go before the brain-dead Obama worshippers like JSM admit they made a mistke and that Obama doesn't have a damn clue? His gaffeomatic sidekick, Biden, already admitted that they were wrong in what they thought their economic plan would accomplish.

There is absolutely ZERO sign that the "stimulus" has succeeded in doing anything positive for the economy. All it has done is create a debt this country will be trying to repay for decades to come. Remember, Obama never ran his election on this stuff. He never told the nation or his voters that he would immediately do any of this crap right out of the gate. He knew he wouldn't get elected for being honest about his real intentions.
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And when that doesn't happen, I'll get a retraction and a sincere apology from bcspace?


Why would I have to? I only said it was brewing. I don't know if Zeyala will actually get the civil war/coup he's called for and the US/EU/UN is paving the way for. His border protest is fizzling at the moment.

JSM thinks he's an expert on economics, and his evidence for thsi is his support for a moron who is running this country into the ground in record time?


I don't think there is a leftwing democrat in existence who knows anything at all about economics.
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