Biden Takes Georgia; Violence on Horizon

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Gunnar wrote:
Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:25 pm
It still astounds me that subby either can't see or doesn't care how openly corrupt and pathologically dishonest Trump and his enablers are.
I am as tolerant of Trump’s corruption as you are of Biden’s.
And i will throw in the fact that Kamala at one time stated that she believed the women who were accusing Biden of sexual abuse...but I get ya...why not focus on Goya beans.
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Democrats didn't get "what they wanted." They didn't get the Senate (not counting on winning two races in Georgia) and lost ground in the House. Divided government is the perfect time for both sides to get together and figure out what to do about some pressing problems. But, no, Sub would rather burn the country down than give an inch. But now that McConnell no longer has Trump to hide behind, we'll see whether a Republican senator or two will put country ahead of party. If McConnell continues his practice of not allowing the Senate to vote, I like our chances in two years. When Biden starts holding daily press conferences, each one should begin with a reading of each and every bill that McConnell won't let the Senate consider.
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Re: Biden Takes Georgia; Violence on Horizon

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subgenius wrote:
Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:28 pm
Gunnar wrote:
Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:25 pm
It still astounds me that subby either can't see or doesn't care how openly corrupt and pathologically dishonest Trump and his enablers are.
I am as tolerant of Trump’s corruption as you are of Biden’s.
And i will throw in the fact that Kamala at one time stated that she believed the women who were accusing Biden of sexual abuse...but I get ya...why not focus on Goya beans.
I am even further astounded that you actually seem to believe Biden comes anywhere close to being as obviously and incorrigibly corrupt and dishonest as Trump. He was and is not my first choice for President, but he is almost incomparably better and more admirable than Trump by almost any measure I can think of.

And you still can't come even close to rationally denying that Trump has done an abysmal job of handling the covid-19 pandemic.
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It’s interesting to watch the folks that spent the last four years chanting, ““F” your Feelings” to everyone else are now acting so fragile as to suggest that they’re the ones with the blackened eye.

Abusers are nothing if not consistent.
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canpakes wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:40 am
It’s interesting to watch the folks that spent the last four years chanting, ““F” your Feelings” to everyone else are now acting so fragile as to suggest that they’re the ones with the blackened eye.

Abusers are nothing if not consistent.
Trump talks about having all the tough people. LOL

Trump fans are the whiniest damned snowflakes to hit the ground. They take no personal responsibility to learn the issues and figure out what's really wrong with this country. They're easily fooled hicks who are readily distracted with shouts of, "Look, brown people!" and "Oooo, a truck!"

America is fertile ground for an asshole like Trump because of the vast number of morons and rednecks without a clue.

On the upside, there's a opioid epidemic among Trump fans, which explains a lot.
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https://mobile.Twitter.com/JacquiHeinri ... 9661310977

and of course:

https://mobile.Twitter.com/JacquiHeinri ... 9227925507

Edit: Remember this is brought to you by the folks who were so incompetent they booked the Four Seasons landscaping company instead of the Four Seasons hotel for a presser, and even upon learning of their mistake just said, ““F” it. Our supporters are too stupid to care anyway.”

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Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:35 pm
canpakes wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:40 am
It’s interesting to watch the folks that spent the last four years chanting, “[vulgarity] your Feelings” to everyone else are now acting so fragile as to suggest that they’re the ones with the blackened eye.

Abusers are nothing if not consistent.
Trump talks about having all the tough people. LOL

Trump fans are the whiniest [vulgarity] snowflakes to hit the ground. They take no personal responsibility to learn the issues and figure out what's really wrong with this country. They're easily fooled hicks who are readily distracted with shouts of, "Look, brown people!" and "Oooo, a truck!"

America is fertile ground for an asshole like Trump because of the vast number of morons and rednecks without a clue.

On the upside, there's a opioid epidemic among Trump fans, which explains a lot.
I just can't go with you on this, Schmo. What I know about brains and how they work tells me quite strongly that there is no fundamental difference between me and, for example, Ajax. We all have instincts that are wired into our brains when we are exposed to perceived danger. We all suffer from the same cognitive biases because our brains basically work in the same way. And nothing in the evolutionary process has prepared us to cope with the firehose of information that smacks us in the face every day. At bottom, we are all trying to do the best we can under impossible circumstances. And we all suffer to some degree because we want things to be other than the way they are. That's what it means to be human. And we are all, most definitely, human.

We know where it leads when groups of people start dehumanizing each other. We've had far too many historical examples not to learn from what happens. Study the Rwandan genocide. Really study it. Ask yourself how Tutsi men were persuaded to slaughter their Hutu wives and children. What drove people to think of locking people inside a church and slaughtering them? How does that happen?

The best advice any has given me in a long time is this: when someone cuts you off in traffic, or honks their horn at you, or is wearing their mask under the nose in the grocery store, or driving around in a big truck with Trump flags flying, take a deep breath and, as you exhale, think or say "just like me." Remind yourself that we are all humans with brains wired up the same way. And that, given a different personal history, we might act exactly the same way.

To dehumanize is to choose the road to madness. Let's not choose that.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:30 pm
https://mobile.Twitter.com/JacquiHeinri ... 9661310977

and of course:

https://mobile.Twitter.com/JacquiHeinri ... 9227925507

Edit: Remember this is brought to you by the folks who were so incompetent they booked the Four Seasons landscaping company instead of the Four Seasons hotel for a presser, and even upon learning of their mistake just said, “[vulgarity] it. Our supporters are too stupid to care anyway.”

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:27 pm

I just can't go with you on this, Schmo. What I know about brains and how they work tells me quite strongly that there is no fundamental difference between me and, for example, Ajax. We all have instincts that are wired into our brains when we are exposed to perceived danger. We all suffer from the same cognitive biases because our brains basically work in the same way. And nothing in the evolutionary process has prepared us to cope with the firehose of information that smacks us in the face every day. At bottom, we are all trying to do the best we can under impossible circumstances. And we all suffer to some degree because we want things to be other than the way they are. That's what it means to be human. And we are all, most definitely, human.

We know where it leads when groups of people start dehumanizing each other. We've had far too many historical examples not to learn from what happens. Study the Rwandan genocide. Really study it. Ask yourself how Tutsi men were persuaded to slaughter their Hutu wives and children. What drove people to think of locking people inside a church and slaughtering them? How does that happen?

The best advice any has given me in a long time is this: when someone cuts you off in traffic, or honks their horn at you, or is wearing their mask under the nose in the grocery store, or driving around in a big truck with Trump flags flying, take a deep breath and, as you exhale, think or say "just like me." Remind yourself that we are all humans with brains wired up the same way. And that, given a different personal history, we might act exactly the same way.

To dehumanize is to choose the road to madness. Let's not choose that.
I love your posts and agree with you for the most part, but at the same time not all humans are "just like me." There really are psychopaths out there. Not just anyone can be talked into murdering their own family. Ajax is cut from the same cloth that gave us Auschwitz. His hatred is palpable and I refuse to entertain the idea that we're just the same, though I know you're only speaking biologically.
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