Bolsonaro wins Brazil

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Re: Bolsonaro wins Brazil

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SteelHead wrote:I answered the question as I understand it. Could you elucidate because I am not following?

Come on. I'm referring to you branding him a fascist, a misogynist, a racist, a homophobe, even someone who would subject gays to physical violence and murder. You know, a tyrannical monster. Oh, and then you said, "you'd like him."

So, why did you post that? Where would you like to start. How about we take it one at a time. So you think I'm someone who wants to subject gays to violence and murder?
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Water Dog wrote:
SteelHead wrote:I answered the question as I understand it. Could you elucidate because I am not following?

Come on. I'm referring to you branding him a fascist, a misogynist, a racist, a homophobe, even someone who would subject gays to physical violence and murder. You know, a tyrannical monster. Oh, and then you said, "you'd like him."

So, why did you post that? Where would you like to start. How about we take it one at a time. So you think I'm someone who wants to subject gays to violence and murder?

No, I do not think you would subject gays to violence.

But I do think you are a climate change denier who sees resources as nothing more than something to be extracted, who supports right leaning strong men with a history of inflammatory rhetoric around race, women and gays, and who (said strongman) uses nationalistic rhetoric approaching fascism to demonize those that oppose him.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I actually find this topic interesting and relevant since my wife and I seriously considering moving to either Porto Alegre or Novohamburgo for a gear when she wraps up her studies at the U. I want to go for language immersion, and she wants to go because it's cool.

- Doc


The state of Rio Grande do Sul is almost like a completely different country. They've actually tried to secede from Brazil to be their own country.

The farthest south I've been is Curitiba, but I've only heard wonderful things about the far south. My brother-in-law got his dream transfer to Florianopolis over the summer.

Curitiba and outlier towns, you'd be surprised how much they resemble Europe, Germany in particular. After WWII many Germans flocked to South Brazil and colonized various areas which is why many of the folks down there speak Portuguese and German.

Rio Grande do Sul actually gets cold in the winter (during our summer months) and there are only a couple months out of the year when the water is warm enough to swim at the beaches.
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Kevin Graham wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I actually find this topic interesting and relevant since my wife and I seriously considering moving to either Porto Alegre or Novohamburgo for a year when she wraps up her studies at the U. I want to go for language immersion, and she wants to go because it's cool.

- Doc


The state of Rio Grande do Sul is almost like a completely different country. They've actually tried to secede from Brazil to be their own country.

The farthest south I've been is Curitiba, but I've only heard wonderful things about the far south. My brother-in-law got his dream transfer to Florianopolis over the summer.

Curitiba and outlier towns, you'd be surprised how much they resemble Europe, Germany in particular. After WWII many Germans flocked to South Brazil and colonized various areas which is why many of the folks down there speak Portuguese and German.

Rio Grande do Sul actually gets cold in the winter (during our summer months) and there are only a couple months out of the year when the water is warm enough to swim at the beaches.


Yeah, her mother (RIP) was from Curitiba, and her family lived there when she was a toddler. Her father served a mission in Brazil and met her mother there. Most of her family on her mother's side are of German ancestry, so it's interesting to read about, hear about, and learn about that region of Brazil. My interest in Porto Alegre is about as deep as a puddle; they were a World Cup city and I thought somewhere in that region would be a fun place to pass a year studying and learning Portuguese.

- Doc
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If you end up in Southern Brazil do not pass up on seeing Iguacu. Take a couple of days to hike around, tour up the river to the base of the falls in a RIB etc.
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I was down there during the final days of Sarne, the last military dictator. The people I spoke to then were happy the military was giving up power. They didn't miss the Rota and all the murders committed by it. The Rota used to round up people that merely looked suspicious and would take them to a deserted place to be summarily shot. However, they also said that the crime rate almost immediately dropped by a long ways due to the brutal tactics of the Rota.

Its gone downhill in Brazil over the last 10 years or so and I can see how the people would want some law and order. My former law clerk married a Brazilian wife and she had some friends visiting Las Vegas from Brazil a few weeks back. All they talked about was the corruption and crime down there and how they wanted a change. They said that they wanted Bolsonaro and were going to vote for him.
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