Right Wing Violence - Media not accountable

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Ok, so I guess I just don't know what you mean by a potentially violent Revolutionary Left. It doesn't seem to exist, at least not in this country.


Would you not be fine with violence Kevin if you had good reason to believe the person was a racist and had defiled America's sacred cow? You're certainly not above online bullying.
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Man with "no regrets" convicted of beheading coworker.

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Do you remember this story from 2014?

According to Nolen the woman he beheaded was among the oppressors and didn't need to be here. He drew his inspiration from the Quran. It happened while Obama was president. So what right? Did CNN ever ask Obama to publicly condemn this incident? Was it even talked about at all?

https://nypost.com/2017/09/29/man-with- ... co-worker/
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Thanks for pointing this one out honorentheos. This man was an ardent Sanders supporter much like Kevin.

Steve Scalise Calls Out CNN’s Don Lemon for Denying Left-Wing Political Violence

Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA) called out CNN’s Don Lemon Tuesday as the anchor downplayed left-wing political violence. (sounds a lot like Kevin)

Steve Scalise simply posted the “eyes” emoji and linked to a story from National Review about Don Lemon saying he doesn’t “see Democrats” killing people over politics.


On his Monday primetime broadcast, Lemon said, “The right-wing group killed the woman in Charlottesville. This guy is a right-winger who killed the people in the synagogue. The right-winger sent bombs to CNN and to Democrats. I don’t see Democrats killing people because of political — yeah, there may be democratic operatives who are out there.”

He also said that political violence was “for the most part” committed by “extreme right-wingers.”

Scalise himself was, of course, a victim of a shooting last year by a left-wing Bernie Sanders supporter, James Hodgkinson.

The shooter who stormed a GOP baseball practice and shot Scalise was yelling about health care and had a list of Republicans in his pocket that he wanted to target, according to Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), who was at the field what it was targeted.

“I was there at the ballfield when Steven Scalise almost died from a very, very angry, violent man who was incited, really, by rhetoric on the left,” Paul said earlier this month.

“And this hasn’t been reported enough: When he came on to the ball field with a semiautomatic weapon, firing probably close to 200 shots at us, shooting five people and almost killing Steve Scalise, he was yelling, ‘This is for health care!’ He also had a list of conservative legislators–Republicans–in his pocket, that he was going to kill,” the Kentucky senator also said.

CNN’s Lemon has previously defended the Antifa harassment of Republican Ted Cruz, saying last month, “In a way, I think it goes with the territory. I don’t like that they were blocking his wife, but, that’s what he signed up for.

“ (This also sounds a lot like the people on this board.)

And as a strict Constitutionalist, which Ted Cruz is, he knows that it’s protected under the First Amendment. Again, I don’t like it, I wouldn’t want it to happen to me, I don’t like it happening to his wife. But he… that’s what he signed up for. That’s part of the deal.”
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honorentheos wrote:I found that bit of the JRE podcast clipped out on YouTube. I think it's worth watching for contextualizing what ajax is saying and why it really does look like a message meant to justify retaliatory violence.


Sorry I didn't care to watch your link. But I'm certainly not one to justify retaliatory violence. I just think it's absurd when people like Kevin or Don Lemon or their viewers are so deep in their own bubble that they start anecdotally declaring falsehoods like, "Right wingers are responsible for the most terrorist attacks, or right wing media inspires violence and mainstream media does not. It really demonstrates their ignorance and their bias. Is Fox biased? Sure, but Fox tells you when you're getting a political opinion. CNN gives you a cherry picked slant of a story, draws erroneous conclusions from it and tells the viewer they're nonpartisan and objective.

So tell me Kevin, why haven't the left wing media or Bernie Sanders been held accountable for James Hodgkinson? I think CNN might have actually tried to get Bernie to condemn this attack (though nothing like the way they treat Trump) but this happened during the primaries if I remember right. I seriously doubt they would have even devoted more than five words to the story if Bernie were the general election candidate. That story would be buried so deep most would never have heard about it unless they turned on Fox.
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ajax18 wrote:
Ok, so I guess I just don't know what you mean by a potentially violent Revolutionary Left. It doesn't seem to exist, at least not in this country.


Would you not be fine with violence Kevin if you had good reason to believe the person was a racist and had defiled America's sacred cow? You're certainly not above online bullying.


I certainly wouldn’t, which separates me from you and your white supremacist friends.
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Ajax says he thinks CNN may have tried to get Bernie to condemn that attack? In fact, Sanders condemned it within a couple of hours after the incident as soon as he heard about it and he did so on the Senate floor. The fact that he is unaware of this furthers the point of right wing media, his only source, creates more violent types by keeping them ignorant and telling them only enough to make them dangerous.

Compare this to Donald Trump encouraging violence among his supporters and calling them fine people after a Nazi murders a woman in broad daylight.

How should Sanders be held accountable when he has never once uttered s single phrase that could possibly be interpreted as a call to violence?

That's the difference.

And we're still waiting for Ajax to produce examples of left wingers murdering people. A Muslim guy killing someone he used to work with has nothing to do with the left.
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Lol.

ajax, none of this happened, and you're still reaping the benefit of the economic recovery that began under his term. It's really hard to take you seriously in any way if you posted this with any seriousness. You're basically advertising that you are detached from reality by doing so, or you're admitting that right-wing media is populated by loons.

What's the story?
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How about the policemen in Texas and Louisiana killed by leftists during Obama's 2nd term.
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ajax18 wrote:How about the policemen i Texas and Louisiana killed by leftists during Obama's 2nd term.


Cops get killed every year no matter who is President dumbass. Your argument is much worse than I thought if this is all you have.
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