I really think that personal relationships with people who end up dying of firearm injuries is highly contingent on where one lives and the circle of people one knows. It's also continent on how important the cause of death is to the person.
In thinking about people I've known who have died, I realize that, for many of them, I don't know how they died. Of acquaintances that I know committed suicide, one of my cousins committed suicide. Until I read Kevin's post, I'd never thought about or thought to ask how he ended his life. When I was a mod at Post-Mormon, a member of the community there committed suicide. I think she used a firearm. But, when I think of her, I don't think about how she killed herself. I think about posts she made, her avatar, and the few private conversations I had with her. I think about how happy she seemed in her last post, expressing excitement about attending an upcoming conference. A think about the numbness I felt when we learned she had committed suicide, and the personal loss I felt to have her gone. I think it was a gun, but I wouldn't bet money on it.
A classmate who I can't recall even being aware of committed suicide. Again, I think it was a gun. Another acquaintance threw herself in front of a train. I can't recall any others.
I grew up hunting with my dad and a group of his friends, so I was around guns. Of my current friends and acquaintances, I know that one owns a handgun and a rifle. I actually don't know whether the others own or do not own firearms. Several of my board gaming friends served in the military or reserves. I've had several interesting conversations about firearms with an army vet. But I don't actually know whether she owns a firearm. I can recall only one gun accidental injury, and that was my dad being stupid with a pellet gun. He had to go to the ER to remove the pellet from his finger. I can't think of any friend or acquaintance who was intentionally shot by another person.
One guy's experience. Unlikely representative of anything.
You may not consider me a friend, but you know me sorta, and I own firearms and have hunting licenses. You know people on this board that are officers that may require firearm training or and possibly carrying a firearm in their profession.
Like all topics, our interpretation of the problems and solutions is subject to our biases, including confirmation bias and negativity bias.
What’s the number of deaths by firearm, per year, we’d have to hit before you’d be willing to give up your guns?
- Doc
Zero.
If I thought for a second that my guns were not being owned, stored and used safely and properly, they would be gone by the end of the day. I am not attached to them any more than I am to my trucks, tractors or tools. I would also get rid of the trucks, tractors, saws, welders, dogs, torches and electric guitars if I was not comfortable with the risks and the responsibilities.
I really think that personal relationships with people who end up dying of firearm injuries is highly contingent on where one lives and the circle of people one knows. It's also continent on how important the cause of death is to the person.
In thinking about people I've known who have died, I realize that, for many of them, I don't know how they died. Of acquaintances that I know committed suicide, one of my cousins committed suicide. Until I read Kevin's post, I'd never thought about or thought to ask how he ended his life. When I was a mod at Post-Mormon, a member of the community there committed suicide. I think she used a firearm. But, when I think of her, I don't think about how she killed herself. I think about posts she made, her avatar, and the few private conversations I had with her. I think about how happy she seemed in her last post, expressing excitement about attending an upcoming conference. A think about the numbness I felt when we learned she had committed suicide, and the personal loss I felt to have her gone. I think it was a gun, but I wouldn't bet money on it.
A classmate who I can't recall even being aware of committed suicide. Again, I think it was a gun. Another acquaintance threw herself in front of a train. I can't recall any others.
I grew up hunting with my dad and a group of his friends, so I was around guns. Of my current friends and acquaintances, I know that one owns a handgun and a rifle. I actually don't know whether the others own or do not own firearms. Several of my board gaming friends served in the military or reserves. I've had several interesting conversations about firearms with an army vet. But I don't actually know whether she owns a firearm. I can recall only one gun accidental injury, and that was my dad being stupid with a pellet gun. He had to go to the ER to remove the pellet from his finger. I can't think of any friend or acquaintance who was intentionally shot by another person.
One guy's experience. Unlikely representative of anything.
You may not consider me a friend, but you know me sorta, and I own firearms and have hunting licenses. You know people on this board that are officers that may require firearm training or and possibly carrying a firearm in their profession.
Like all topics, our interpretation of the problems and solutions is subject to our biases, including confirmation bias and negativity bias.
True. The omission was not intentional. When trying to recall, I didn't think about folks I know here. I think my brain remembers things that it thinks I think are important. It clearly thinks that I don't place much importance on who owns guns and who doesn't. Brains are weird.
he/him we all just have to live through it,
holding each other’s hands.
I have reviewed ten or so reports of posts for the reason "off topic." I've concluded that none of the reported posts constitute derails under UR 4. For OPs that want us to apply a more strict "on topic" standard, I recommend starting threads in SSP. Thanks.
he/him we all just have to live through it,
holding each other’s hands.
I would also get rid of the trucks, tractors, saws, welders, dogs, torches and electric guitars if I was not comfortable with the risks and the responsibilities.
But statistically a person is more likely to die by suicide than by homicide.
And why would you need large capacity magazines?
"I have the type of (REAL) job where I can choose how to spend my time," says Marcus.
I would also get rid of the trucks, tractors, saws, welders, dogs, torches and electric guitars if I was not comfortable with the risks and the responsibilities.
But statistically a person is more likely to die by suicide than by homicide.
And why would you need large capacity magazines?
I have never owned one. If I ever consider owning one, I am sure it would be for fun and not for a need.
