The overlap is the anti-establishment stance, and that's more important to some people than it is to you and me. Bernie ran as a candidate of the Democratic Party against the establishment, corporate Democratic Party. If sticking it to the man is your jam, then that's a pretty attractive bandwagon to jump on. If you're a "burn it all down" type like a Steve Bannon, then the most important thing is burning it all down. In that way, some folks on the extreme left are virtually indistinguishable from some folks on the extreme right. "Burn it all down" is more important today than what get's built as a replacement down the road.Gadianton wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:32 pmI disagree. I agree that Sanders is a "populist" and there have been left-oriented "occupy" movements, but the actual issues do matter. Bernie has been nothing but pro vaccine and mask, while Binger has been strictly anti-vaccine and mask. Has Bernie been joining hands with Rand Paul praising the truckers? If so then you could say there is some overlap, although that issue takes a backseat to the pandemic.Res wrote:Kevin, there is a flavor of Sanders supporter that Binger fits neatly into
All the populist positions Binger has supported have been right-wing populist positions. If the hand that moves the puppet really is a Bernie supporter, then the puppet is revealed as nothing but a troll, and the hand is a terrible friend for expecting his in real life friend to give privileges to a puppet that is just trolling and not even sincere about the positions rule breaking.
Take Tulsi Gabbard. She's part of the Progressive wing of the Democratic Party. She's pro universal health insurance. She's pro choice. She's pro universal basic income. She's pro family and medical leave. She's anti-military intervention. She supports reducing the President's power to take military action without the consent of Congress. She was Vice Chair of the DNC until she resigned in 2016 to endorse Sanders. In this last Presidential campaign, Sanders defended her against spurious claims that she was some kind of Russian stooge. The Nation, a leading Progressive publication in the U.S., defended her skepticism toward claims that the Syrian president used chemical weapons against dissidents. (She does not have a progressive track record on LGBT rights.)
She's also anti-establishment. She attacked the Democratic Party for structuring the nomination process to favor Clinton. She quit a DNC leadership position to back Sanders.
The most significant difference between the anti-establishment left and the anti-establishment right today is that the latter caused the Republican establishment to knuckle under. The Democratic didn't. So, most of the anti-establishment visibility is on the right, where it's become mainstreamed. (The problem, of course, is when the anti-establishment folks become the new establishment, and they become anti-themselves).
I don't endorse anti-establishmentism as a political philosophy. But Binger voting for Sanders and Gabbard is perfectly understandable to me.