Trump Derangement Syndrome seems to be real

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Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:56 pm
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Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:49 pm
The premise is that TDS causes normally intelligent people to have significant lapses in judgment. Extremist people will be extremist. Moderates will be moderate. Except if they are affected by TDS.

Something like this shooting happens, and suddenly a bunch of otherwise normal people start saying insane extreme things. Even to the point where it negatively impacts their career, like it has here.

That’s the noteworthy phenomenon, in my opinion. And on a macro level, it has turned media outlets like NPR from a moderate level headed news organization into an anti-Trump machine. It’s negatively affected their ability to be objective when they’re so singularly focused on Trump.
Yeah, I would love it if something else were actually grabbing our attention more. Unfortunately, the Supreme Court and Project 2025 have rightly concerned us with the threat of losing our democratic republic. I know you and others are not convinced, but, if I were to find plans to rob a bank today in the hands of a criminal, I wouldn't go out to write parking tickets.

Yes but in my opinion the plans are written in crayon.
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If someone talks about Trump realistically, everything is going to sound like an insult and motivated by hate to someone who wants to think highly of him. Speaking facts about Trump makes MAGA sad.

The made up term TDS says way more about the GOP's lack of character and ethics than the people actually aware of Trump's behavior. It's is on brand for the GOP, given the GOP's brand is shameless hypocrisy.
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drumdude wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:01 pm
Yes but in my opinion the plans are written in crayon.
LOL!!! The incompetence of a criminal is not proof of their lack of criminal intent and action, duuuuude.
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Agenda47 is Trump’s official policy:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47

Which shares many of Project2025’s ideology but is not identical to it.
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People like Kish likely wouldn’t have gotten the Bush DS label. It was more on blogs and stuff. Not Drudge Report or Instapundit, but I want to say in those spheres. Charles Krauthammer coined it in 2003, but didn’t use it how * derangement syndrome has become, and I think it slowly gained adoption online, but I feel like it was more common late in Bush’s second term.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:03 pm
If someone talks about Trump realistically, everything is going to sound like an insult and motivated by hate to someone who wants to think highly of him. Speaking facts about Trump makes MAGA sad.
So true!

And this is what is so mind boggling to me.

Imagine the following . . .

A bully of moderate intelligence who is the son of a slumlord and managed to seize control of his father's disreputably acquired millions spends his life building an image of garish opulence in the mode of a Bond movie or Hugh Heffner wannabe while his business empire, such that it is, lurches from failure to failure, leaving bankruptcies, broken contracts, and unpaid bills in its wake.

The propaganda arm of a major political party gives this joke of a human a platform to shill a conspiracy theory against the first black president, a conspiracy that plays on nativistic fears and racism. Through this attention, he becomes the focus of the political hopes of a lot of similarly gullible, fearful, racist, and fringe voters who look to propaganda to give them most of their "information."

Because the rest of the field of potential candidates in this party is so lackluster, and people are so disillusioned, he manages to win the nomination of that party by bullying and blustering his way through the primaries. His support is a giant middle finger to the mainstream political establishment. Against the odds and the polls, he defeats the technocratic but dismally uncharismatic first female candidate for president. During the race, he tries to intimidate his opponent, he calls on the help of a foreign power against her, they actually comply and give him the damaging information he was seeking, and he defeats her by grabbing just the right thousands of votes in the right swing states.

Right away he ostentatiously refuses to conform to certain traditions of the presidency, like stepping away from his business empire to turn his full attention to the task of the presidency. He welcomes some political extremists into his administration who facilitate his extreme and inhumane actions against Muslims and immigrants. He tries to blackmail the government of a country that has been invaded by a foreign power he has already proven to be in bed with because that victimized nation is resisting digging up fake dirt on his presumed political opponent in the next presidential election. When the country is hit with a global pandemic, he shambolically fails to provide a firm, unequivocal, sane, and successful plan for fighting the disease, instead flouting the advice of medical experts and suggesting ineffective and dangerous cures that lead his followers to do dumb things like drink bleach. Under his "leadership," the GOP becomes the party of death, treating the pandemic as something it would be irresponsible to take precautions against.

The confusion, fear, and failure that follows in his wake results in the loss of his bid for re-election, and, instead of accepting that defeat with some grace, he does everything he can to hold onto power, including threatening to confiscate voting machines and trying to stop the count of electoral ballots by manipulating his vice president and mobilizing a mob that stormed the Capitol with weapons, violence, and a plan to capture key members of Congress.

Four years later, this entire bonkers ride of destitute character, serial failure, and unrepentant criminality is a breath away from recapturing power, and its followers can't see why anyone should be concerned about their plans to remake their government in the Trumpian image of Project 2025.
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drumdude wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:12 pm
Agenda47 is Trump’s official policy:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47

Which shares many of Project2025’s ideology but is not identical to it.
So it's not the same turd, just a turd from the same ass.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:29 pm
drumdude wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:12 pm
Agenda47 is Trump’s official policy:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47

Which shares many of Project2025’s ideology but is not identical to it.
So it's not the same turd, just a turd from the same ass.
It’s worth knowing which turd we may have to eat.

The way the media is trying to pin Project 2025 on Trump is counterproductive if they can sidestep it and talk about his actual stated agenda.
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drumdude wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:32 pm
The way the media is trying to pin Project 2025 on Trump is counterproductive if they can sidestep it and talk about his actual stated agenda.
How is it counterproductive? You think tying 2025 to Trump is going to help him?
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Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:41 pm
drumdude wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:32 pm
The way the media is trying to pin Project 2025 on Trump is counterproductive if they can sidestep it and talk about his actual stated agenda.
How is it counterproductive? You think tying 2025 to Trump is going to help him?
It lets him wiggle out of criticism by not being officially held to it. There’s plenty to criticize on his official platform.

“Project 2025 is the real agenda” is a little too conspiratorial for me. Especially when the more extreme points will probably end up being just talk.
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