It's Okay to be White

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Re: It's Okay to be White

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drumdude wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2024 2:10 am
ceeboo wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:56 am
I would go a bit further and suggest that a little introspection would serve all of us well.
We don’t do each other any favors when we put each other into boxes.
I certainly agree with that.

From my view, putting each other into boxes isn't merely one of the central factors that continues to divide our deeply divided country (as if that wasn't tragic enough), it's a cancer that, if left untreated, carries the potential to be terminal.
I think you’ve got more nuance in your positions than one (including me) would initially think, and you appreciate the nuance that others express. I respect that a lot.
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ceeboo wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:56 am
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:32 am
This is why your criticisms of the Left are hollow. A little introspection would be good.
Does this apply to me alone? Only people who criticize the left?

How about people who criticize only the political right? Hollow too?

Specifically, how about you? Are your constant criticisms of the right - and only the right - written all over this board - hollow?

Do you believe that you might benefit by a little introspection?
Again, a little introspection would serve you well
To be completely transparent, I absolutely agree with you.

I would go a bit further and suggest that a little introspection would serve all of us well.
This is why you’re an unserious poster. For the entirety of my posting history on both boards I’ve shown a willingness to criticize both parties, and the fact that just posted that means you don’t really pay attention to your interactions with others on this board - not seriously, anyway, hence the my first sentence.

For example, during the BLM riots I spoke out against much of the movement because I found it to be a cynical cash grab by some who aligned themselves with far-Left organizations who in turned stoked racial tensions and caused divisions that will last for decades, perhaps longer. I defended Rittenhouse’s right to self-defense even though I disagreed with his reasons for being there. I agreed with the Right’s take that Hillary Clinton was a corrupt politician who politicked her way into the 2016 nomination even though it felt like most democrats preferred Bernie Sanders. I voted for Romney. And so forth.

You’re so myopic that you think you’re talking to… something, but in no way are you talking to Antishock8/Dr.CamNC4Me the poster, the individual, who has a long history here, and has proven himself, me, as flexible. You just have to make a convincing argument, which you historically haven’t done.

At least you got off the manic cloyingly sweet gifs, though!

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And if you wonder why I absolutely loathe the current iteration of the GOP it’s because this kind of crap:

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Never stops. The Right’s level of corruption and hypocrisy these days is so off the charts that it’s hard to ‘both sides’ them against the Left. The Limbaugh-Fox News Right has taken political insanity to new heights I never thought possible here in America. It’s awful. So, if I’m bitching about MAGA, the current GOP, and their supporters, and if you were paying attention over the years, you’d know there’s something really [deleted] going on with them worth criticizing and voting against.

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Re: It's Okay to be White

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2024 2:44 am
ceeboo wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:56 am
Does this apply to me alone? Only people who criticize the left?

How about people who criticize only the political right? Hollow too?

Specifically, how about you? Are your constant criticisms of the right - and only the right - written all over this board - hollow?

Do you believe that you might benefit by a little introspection?

To be completely transparent, I absolutely agree with you.

I would go a bit further and suggest that a little introspection would serve all of us well.
This is why you’re an unserious poster.
While not direct and certainly not surprising to me, you have answered my above questions.
You’re so myopic that you think you’re talking to… something, but in no way are you talking to Antishock8/Dr.CamNC4Me the poster, the individual, who has a long history here, and has proven himself, me, as flexible.
How humble of you to post this about yourself. Introspection?
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Ceeboo wrote:As a matter of fact, most Christians I know cast their vote based largely on policy and not the personality of a candidate.
Why Trump instead of, for example, Nikki Haley? If Trump's policies are so fantastic that they outweigh everything else, then why do you think the former worst conservatives ever for Democrats, George W. and Dick Cheney, are not endorsing Trump? What will Trump do policy wise that Nikki Haley wouldn't do, such that it's worth accepting the absurd liabilities of his "personality"?

There will always be bad blood between conservatives and liberals. As one who does not think of myself as a liberal, it's unlikely that I would participate much in political threads if Nikki Haley became president. I participated rarely if ever during the EA years. I didn't care about Obama, never heard a single Obama speech. Michele Obama annoyed me with all her lame celebrity stunts. Never voted until 2016. My political issues aren't long standing issues with gaping blind spots that I can't see because I've been a tool of my party for so long. There are a lot of people like me out there. Once Trump is gone and the forces of culture that gave rise to him fizzle, and let's hope they do, then a good number of us will drop out of the banter game that you seem quite concerned about.
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oUr CoUnTrY iS sO dIvIdEd!!! WhY cAn’T tHe LeFt bE MoRe CiViL?!?- Ceeboo
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tHe BiDenS, uKrAiNe, MoOoOOoNey! Meanwhile we had and potentially will have the most ‘for-sale’ President in the history of our country:

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And we have our resident idiot Binger asking if it’s ok to be white. What an utterly perfect snapshot of the state we find ourselves in.

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ceeboo wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:07 pm
I wasn't thinking about universal school lunch - I was thinking about constant politically motivated rhetoric (by design and it's working) concerning things like "threat to democracy", "Hitler", 'Nazi", "blood bath", "dictator", "white supremacist", "KGB agent", etc, etc, etc, that is being spewed daily.
Hitler comparisons are silly, and seem to end up being applied to every presidential candidate (or President) that I can remember since GB2. And remember when Obama’s ‘brown shirts’ were going to scoop all of us up and take us away to those FEMA camps?

‘Dictator’ is a bit fresher, but Trump has even leaned into that one with his quip about being one only for Day 1.

But, ‘threat to democracy’ is new and reflects unique circumstances. If a candidate actively stokes fears of election fraud before an election, cries about stolen elections afterwards, instigates crowds to storm the Capitol to ‘take back’ his presidency, and spends the next near-4 years afterwards repeating that same playbook, filing frivolous lawsuits, and promoting the fantasy that all elections not resulting in a Republican win are therefore illegitimate/stolen/fraudulent, then the charge against that candidate of being a threat to democracy seems wholly accurate.

You’re free to defend against the characterization, but that would seem to be a bit of a tall order.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2024 5:46 pm
tHe BiDenS, uKrAiNe, MoOoOOoNey! Meanwhile we had and potentially will have the most ‘for-sale’ President in the history of our country …
Speaking of sales, are you saving up your cash to buy the new 3x-overpriced Trump coins just announced by the candidate last week?

I can't wait to participate in another Trump family grift. Gold sneakers, overpriced bibles, and cryptocurrency scams just weren’t enough.

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Re: It's Okay to be White

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canpakes wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:57 pm
But, ‘threat to democracy’ is new and reflects unique circumstances. If a candidate actively stokes fears of election fraud before an election, cries about stolen elections afterwards, instigates crowds to storm the Capitol to ‘take back’ his presidency, and spends the next near-4 years afterwards repeating that same playbook, filing frivolous lawsuits, and promoting the fantasy that all elections not resulting in a Republican win are therefore illegitimate/stolen/fraudulent, then the charge against that candidate of being a threat to democracy seems wholly accurate.
I've said it here before: stating facts about Trump makes MAGA sad (which is actually a euphemism for "unhinged").

MAGA likes to whine that their speech is being suppressed while also being actively against free speech. They don't want people to tell the truth about Trump, going so far as to claim it's inciting violence, yet another projection and hypocrisy. Trump and Vance are absolute pieces of crap, and the stupidity involved in the calculation to vote for them is staggering.

I've come to the conclusion that the GOP is agitating for a civil war so much, they've embraced sociopathic behavior as a campaign strategy. If they were rational actors, they would acknowledge their own destructive behavior. Being completely irrational and uncompromising tells me they want to play war with their guns. They represent an obvious and actual danger to our country, and "sane" Republicans have their heads buried in the sand to avoid their own culpability.
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