October Surprise #1

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Dr Exiled wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:43 pm
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Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:13 pm


It’s to protect witness intimidation. Funnily, the Trump camp wanted the titles of those involved to be redacted, presumably to sow confusion.
Well, it looks like Trumptard's team wanted to stop the document from being made publicly available or redacted to the point on non-recognition. I am sure they are remembering the laptop and the benefit they got from Comey's last-minute about face in 2016.
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Check out pages 161, para. starting with “Forensic evidence from DEFENDANT’s IPHONE…” (caps mine) through 162. They’re using forensic evidence off his iphone.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:24 pm
Dr Exiled wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:43 pm


Well, it looks like Trumptard's team wanted to stop the document from being made publicly available or redacted to the point on non-recognition. I am sure they are remembering the laptop and the benefit they got from Comey's last-minute about face in 2016.
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The briefing was ordered by the judge, who already dispensed with this grievance:
Fifth and finally, Defendant claims that the Government’s forthcoming brief violates Department of Justice policy. He asserts that the brief “would be tantamount to a premature and improper Special Counsel report,” Def.’s Opp’n at 6, which is provided at “the conclusion of the Special Counsel’s work,” id. (quoting 28 C.F.R. § 600.8(c)). And he argues that the brief would run afoul of the Justice Manual, which prohibits federal prosecutors from “select[ing] the timing of any action, including investigative steps, criminal charges, or statements, for the purpose of affecting any election.” Id. at 7 (quotation omitted). The court need not address the substance of those claims. Defendant does not explain how those putative violations cause him legal prejudice in this case, nor how this court is bound by or has jurisdiction to enforce Department of Justice policy.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:54 pm
Check out pages 161, para. starting with “Forensic evidence from DEFENDANT’s IPHONE…” (caps mine) through 162. They’re using forensic evidence off his iphone.

Phew.

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Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:32 pm
Also in case I haven't said it yet, thank goodness for Pence's principled stance.
Yeah, Pence is a really interesting character in all of this, and since I've been critical of Pence over the years, I need to also acknowledge and compliment his refusal to go along with the conspiracy to remain in power (again). That was a really brave thing for him to do in those moments, given the pressures from those closest to him to break the law, and the mood of the party at the time. That puts him in a different category of Republican. Principled when really important.

Those guys are out there, and I'm willing to bet there are several GOP politicians that wish Trump loses this election but aren't willing to risk their GOP/Trump cred by saying so. They somehow imagine that when Trump goes away, the GOP will become "normal" again. I think they're ignoring the deep rot in their own party and deluding themselves if they think the party can be like Reagan's again, or even conservative, but how else would they be justifying their silence? Of course, I'm speculating, but it seems to me a reasonable thing to assume of your Nikki Haleys and Mitt Romneys.

Regardless, Pence deserves non-qualified credit for that day. He stood up for the Constitution and therefore, the country. He's a patriot.
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Thu Oct 03, 2024 7:42 pm
Regardless, Pence deserves non-qualified credit for that day. He stood up for the Constitution and therefore, the country. He's a patriot.
And while I'm at it, let me just say... I love Liz Cheney and I don't care who knows it.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 7:50 pm
Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 7:42 pm
Regardless, Pence deserves non-qualified credit for that day. He stood up for the Constitution and therefore, the country. He's a patriot.
And while I'm at it, let me just say... I love Liz Cheney and I don't care who knows it.
I have great respect for any Republican who takes a principled stance against Trump and his lickspittles.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 7:50 pm
Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 7:42 pm
Regardless, Pence deserves non-qualified credit for that day. He stood up for the Constitution and therefore, the country. He's a patriot.
And while I'm at it, let me just say... I love Liz Cheney and I don't care who knows it.
She's the real deal for sure! I feel the same about Adam Kinzinger as well. **salutes** ;)

Also, I mentioned earlier in the thread that Pence's 5 pages of hand written contemporaneous notes are part of the filing. I've had more than one complaint about Pence during his term as VP but in the end, he walked the walk and I'm okay with that.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:45 pm
I feel the same about Adam Kinzinger as well. **salutes** ;)
Kinzinger's speech at the DNC is one of my favorites.

Trump is a small man pretending to be a big man...

One of the best, most distilled descriptions of Trump I've ever heard.
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