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Re: Trump Math

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:55 am
Dr Exiled wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 3:33 am
Let's have a fight over who has the better populism instead of who can suck up to Wall Street the best.
Is he intentionally manipulating the stock market?
Do you mean directly, with the whole tariffs on/tariffs off/tariffs on/tariffs off/tariffs on/tariffs off thing?

Or do you mean directly, with the whole multiple memecoin scam thing?
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:55 am
Dr Exiled wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 3:33 am
Let's have a fight over who has the better populism instead of who can suck up to Wall Street the best.
Is he intentionally manipulating the stock market?
Through tariffs? I don't think you can say the tariff policy is stock market manipulation without more. Anything is possible, though, and republican and democrat congress critters love trading on inside information and so the president isn't immune. I don't trust any of them.
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C'mon Dr. E. It's all about the announcement. He lets his boys know the day before he implements tariffs and they take up short positions and long if he's going to stay for 30 days. Worse is the crypto stuff. Announcing the main holdings of one of his buddies as reserve currencies on a Sunday, as the market is sagging with typical low liquidity and all these positions go through the roof. An hour before some huge bitcoins futures were taken -- hmm I wonder who that was. Not going to complain as I own most of those myself; dumber than crap as reserve "currencies" but whatev.

We shall see if hooking up his bros has long-term viability. The more he does this stuff the less serious the market will take it and a year from now it might be a bigger risk to set up.
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Sat Mar 08, 2025 3:28 am
C'mon Dr. E. It's all about the announcement. He lets his boys know the day before he implements tariffs and they take up short positions and long if he's going to stay for 30 days. Worse is the crypto stuff. Announcing the main holdings of one of his buddies as reserve currencies on a Sunday, as the market is sagging with typical low liquidity and all these positions go through the roof. An hour before some huge bitcoins futures were taken -- hmm I wonder who that was. Not going to complain as I own most of those myself; dumber than crap as reserve "currencies" but whatev.

We shall see if hooking up his bros has long-term viability. The more he does this stuff the less serious the market will take it and a year from now it might be a bigger risk to set up.
Perhaps if there were some sort of electronic device that appeared to have damning evidence on it, but that the Trump FBI, intelligence apparatus, and Rogan led media gaslighted us on and pushed hard to censor those trying to bring out the truth .... lol

You know, the cover-up .....
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canpakes wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 12:55 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:55 am
Is he intentionally manipulating the stock market?
Do you mean directly, with the whole tariffs on/tariffs off/tariffs on/tariffs off/tariffs on/tariffs off thing?

Or do you mean directly, with the whole multiple memecoin scam thing?
Yes I mean the turning on and off of tarrifs thing. It's like intentionally turning on and off a water tap at will. He knows what it's going to do to the stock market. I'm thinking a type of unspoken insider trading where the owners of the country (Carlin) buy low/sell high. The kind of thing that tanked Martha Stewart only no one can be charged or convicted because there is no spoken/recorded evidence or paper trail involved.

Recall that I've said multiple times that people only repeat behaviors from which they profit. Besides getting attention, of what profit is this to him? Maybe keeping the billionaire club rolling in dough.

Okay whatever I wrote is whatever I wrote. I know what I mean. I hope I explained it well enough.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 3:56 am
canpakes wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 12:55 pm
Do you mean directly, with the whole tariffs on/tariffs off/tariffs on/tariffs off/tariffs on/tariffs off thing?

Or do you mean directly, with the whole multiple memecoin scam thing?
Yes I mean the turning on and off of tarrifs thing. It's like intentionally turning on and off a water tap at will. He knows what it's going to do to the stock market. I'm thinking a type of unspoken insider trading where the owners of the country (Carlin) buy low/sell high. The kind of thing that tanked Martha Stewart only no one can be charged or convicted because there is no spoken/recorded evidence or paper trail involved.

Recall that I've said multiple times that people only repeat behaviors from which they profit. Besides getting attention, of what profit is this to him? Maybe keeping the billionaire club rolling in dough.
This is the correct conclusion.
Okay whatever I wrote is whatever I wrote. I know what I mean. I hope I explained it well enough.
You explained it exactly as I hoped you interpreted it. ; )
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As mentioned somewhere else, Trump thinks tariffs will bring manufacturing back to - Made in the USA, and so plans on putting tariffs on Canadian imports of forest products and automobiles.

As if auto manufacturers can just start up a plant like throwing a switch. It's red-light, green-light from Squid Game. Tariffs on - quick, build a plant. (New administration) tariffs off. Kill the plant. Or - Tariffs on, build a plant. (Trump gets bribed) Tariffs off. Kill the plant. Or - Tariffs on, build a plant. (Putin annexes Canada) Never mind, Tariffs off. Kill the plant.
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Dr Exiled wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 3:53 am
Gadianton wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 3:28 am
c'mon Dr. E. It's all about the announcement. He lets his boys know the day before he implements tariffs and they take up short positions and long if he's going to stay for 30 days. Worse is the crypto stuff. Announcing the main holdings of one of his buddies as reserve currencies on a Sunday, as the market is sagging with typical low liquidity and all these positions go through the roof. An hour before some huge bitcoins futures were taken -- hmm I wonder who that was. Not going to complain as I own most of those myself; dumber than crap as reserve "currencies" but whatev.

We shall see if hooking up his bros has long-term viability. The more he does this stuff the less serious the market will take it and a year from now it might be a bigger risk to set up.
Perhaps if there were some sort of electronic device that appeared to have damning evidence on it, but that the Trump FBI, intelligence apparatus, and Rogan led media gaslighted us on and pushed hard to censor those trying to bring out the truth .... lol

You know, the cover-up .....
The Trump Organization has over 500 shell companies operating within it. That much is public knowledge.

Now, who is going to do the work of tracking all of the financial activities and connections between them as Trump flippantly imposes and reverse tariffs that make the broader market move in response?

The Trump Justice department has dropped charges against thousands of people that it perceives as politically aligned with it, from J6 protesters suspected of pedophilia to people who’ve crashed abortion clinics and threatened doctors and patients while violating the FACE act, and anyone in between. Who do you think is going to hold Trump and his friends accountable for anything even if the information was able to be accessed by agencies now under his thumb?

Elsewhere, you’ve already seen the Trump Fam set up one crypto scheme as well as issue two memecoin scams that may have parked up to $50 billion in his pockets in just the week prior to his inauguration. It makes you wonder who knew beforehand what bitcoin would be on his list for his ‘strategic reserve’, and for how long. It’s not as if Donnie thought out the whole scheme in his head and kept the plan secret until he announced it. But how will you track down what was purchased in advance, by whom, and under what shell entity? The regulatory world of crypto is pretty much a financial Wild West and shenanigans are common with few tools or resources to keep the bad players in check.

But, yes, I suppose that you or anyone else can trust that the billionaire memecoin scammer guy with 34 fraud convictions and his own legal protection cronies installed within the highest positions of power will play the market and crypto game in a completely above board fashion, and you can instead keep your head turned and down while still loudly and furiously complaining about Nancy Pelosi’s Nvidia purchases. It’s all good.
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canpakes wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:42 pm
Dr Exiled wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 3:53 am
Perhaps if there were some sort of electronic device that appeared to have damning evidence on it, but that the Trump FBI, intelligence apparatus, and Rogan led media gaslighted us on and pushed hard to censor those trying to bring out the truth .... lol

You know, the cover-up .....
The Trump Organization has over 500 shell companies operating within it. That much is public knowledge.

Now, who is going to do the work of tracking all of the financial activities and connections between them as Trump flippantly imposes and reverse tariffs that make the broader market move in response?

The Trump Justice department has dropped charges against thousands of people that it perceives as politically aligned with it, from J6 protesters suspected of pedophilia to people who’ve crashed abortion clinics and threatened doctors and patients while violating the FACE act, and anyone in between. Who do you think is going to hold Trump and his friends accountable for anything even if the information was able to be accessed by agencies now under his thumb?

Elsewhere, you’ve already seen the Trump Fam set up one crypto scheme as well as issue two memecoin scams that may have parked up to $50 billion in his pockets in just the week prior to his inauguration. It makes you wonder who knew beforehand what bitcoin would be on his list for his ‘strategic reserve’, and for how long. It’s not as if Donnie thought out the whole scheme in his head and kept the plan secret until he announced it. But how will you track down what was purchased in advance, by whom, and under what shell entity? The regulatory world of crypto is pretty much a financial Wild West and shenanigans are common with few tools or resources to keep the bad players in check.

But, yes, I suppose that you or anyone else can trust that the billionaire memecoin scammer guy with 34 fraud convictions and his own legal protection cronies installed within the highest positions of power will play the market and crypto game in a completely above board fashion, and you can instead keep your head turned and down while still loudly and furiously complaining about Nancy Pelosi’s Nvidia purchases. It’s all good.
As I said earlier, I don't trust any of them. That's why the democrats need to kick out the fraudster Wall Streeters and return to their roots. Trust busting, antitrust needs to come back in vogue.

Also, again, Trump had three horrible candidates that he went against. If the corrupt democrats hadn't rigged the election against Sanders, it might have been different. Sanders would have won in 2016. They succeeded in electing Weekend at Bernie's in 2020, but when that didn't work last election, they refused to have a primary, to save democracy of course, and put up a drunk word salad performer that could never go off script.

Maybe it's time to look inward instead of continuing to point the finger outward?
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Dr Exiled wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:52 pm
Maybe it's time to look inward instead of continuing to point the finger outward?
I’m good with multitasking.

I’m also not registered with a political party, so I don’t get to play in the primaries. Not that having my preferred candidate not end up in the general election means that I would ignore the shenanigans of either.
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