Trump is not a fascist

[Doctor Steuss]

One of the grand ironies of waving away the Trump administration directly violating a court order, by appealing to the AEA, is that a Trump-appointed judge just said that is illegal too.

So, defending an illegal act with another illegal act. Sounds on brand for MAGA.

[Markk]

Markk, you are absolutely free to believe that someone claiming you’re a gang member is complete proof that you’re a gang member, even as you’ve had to admit that being a gang member isn’t against the law, anyway.

It does not matter what I believe, the two Judges believed it based on a proven reliable source. But, you are free to not believe the two Judges decision, which is court record....over a person that came to the country illegally, ignored his traffic violations, and who beat his wife, ripped her clothes off, and grabbed her out of a car by the hair, and left her in the street.

And you’re perfectly free to believe that billion-dollar corporations have made long-term infrastructure plans based solely on Donald Trump waffling for two weeks over tariffs, even when a company’s press release states otherwise.

One press release? Just one? CFR on this press release please.

A small sample of what is happening because of Trump's plan, which include tariffs and incentives. High power folks like this do not collectively offer trillions in infrastructure investments, because of waffling. I hope you actually listen to this. I started the video where he introduces some of these folks, to keep in context with what you wrote, it is important to this topic.

https://youtu.be/NwEsaOR65nQ?t=765

[canpakes]

It does not matter what I believe, the two Judges believed it based on a proven reliable source.

No, nothing was ‘proven’. And it wouldn’t matter anyway; gang membership ≠ criminal charge.

One press release? Just one? CFR on this press release please.

Markk, didn’t you link to the executive order? I’m sure that you can figure this out if you take a minute to do so. : D

[Markk]

It does not matter what I believe, the two Judges believed it based on a proven reliable source.

No, nothing was ‘proven’. And it wouldn’t matter anyway; gang membership ≠ criminal charge.

One press release? Just one? CFR on this press release please.

Markk, didn’t you link to the executive order? I’m sure that you can figure this out if you take a minute to do so. : D

You are proving my point. Another fail. My questions are fair. Did you watch the video?

No I don't recall linking the actual executive order, I did link a White House article. If there is a company that said they are investing in the US for their own reason despite the tariffs and incentives offered by the Trump administration, fine, that is good for America. If you watched the video you would have seen that a very large flood of investments, trillions of dollars worth, is because of Trump's tariff's and incentives....and even his phone calls to some of these CEO's. Isn't this good for America?

I'll make it easier for you just listen to this one investor from the video.... https://youtu.be/NwEsaOR65nQ?t=1505

Page 13 of the Judges report, that you wanted me to read, states that he was a MS-13 gang member based on a "past, proven and reliable source," which was a legal decision that he is a MS-13 member. The left choose Garcia because at first it played out that he was a "Maryland father," there leaders rallied around that talking point....then as the truth slowly came out about this man, it has become apparent that they are loosing any passion they had defending a wife beating, child mistreating piece of crap. Cakes, the guy wakes his wife up with a punch in the face.

I have stated over and over the the Supreme Court will, or at least should, decide whether or not the AEA, which is a law, is valid for the president to invoke in regard to foreign gang members who belong to criminal enterprises that have been deemed terrorist organizations. Whether you choose to admit this or not, does not change the facts of what this is about, and that it is going through the process of the three separate equal branches of government.

[Kishkumen]

Must be really wild being a prisoner of Trump's wacky imagination.

[canpakes]

No I don't recall linking the actual executive order, I did link a White House article.

That’s the one. I incorrectly called this an executive order, but it’s not. It’s only an article/press release.

Page 13 of the Judges report, that you wanted me to read, states that he was a MS-13 gang member based on a "past, proven and reliable source,"

That’s not proving anything. That’s relying on hearsay to claim a thing. The judge has a right to their opinion but proof has not been given.

I’m still a bit amused to see you so ardently pursuing the ‘he was in a gang!!’ line, anyway. As we’ve seen and as you acknowledged, being ‘in a gang’ is not a criminal offense. And it doesn’t deny due process or explain why the Trump Administration didn’t deport him in 2019.

It’s a shame that the hill you’ve picked to die on is your acquiescence to having both due process and constitutional rights being eroded or eliminated in order to push stupid political showmanship.

[Some Schmo]

Must be really wild being a prisoner of Trump's wacky imagination.

I was just thinking about this. When you think about how far the general narrative on the right has drifted away from everything they once believed in, you have to be astounded how American right-wingers have no ability to think for themselves. They're so far gone, they are even willing to pretend Trump is what Jesus wants, because that's what the right wing oligarchs want.

Spineless, brainless, characterless.

[Kishkumen]

I was just thinking about this. When you think about how far the general narrative on the right has drifted away from everything they once believed in, you have to be astounded how American right-wingers have no ability to think for themselves. They're so far gone, they are even willing to pretend Trump is what Jesus wants, because that's what the right wing oligarchs want.

Spineless, brainless, characterless.

It's like Markk was always really jealous of the pretzel logic of Mopologists and was just waiting to find something even more unbelievable of his own to defend.

[Some Schmo]

It's like Markk was always really jealous of the pretzel logic of Mopologists and was just waiting to find something even more unbelievable of his own to defend.

It occurs to me that another reason someone might support Trump is if they have a streak of masochism. They seem to love being covered in crap (or piss, depending on Trump's mood at the time).

[Markk]

That’s the one. I incorrectly called this an executive order, but it’s not. It’s only an article/press release.

Yes, so which is the one with the press release you were speaking of? And again, either way it is a good thing....right?

Did you watch the last link I pasted for you?

That’s not proving anything. That’s relying on hearsay to claim a thing. The judge has a right to their opinion but proof has not been given

No, it was not hearsay, it was a "past, proven, and reliable source of information." And in regards to hearsay, it is often admissible in a court of law.

I’m still a bit amused to see you so ardently pursuing the ‘he was in a gang!!’ line, anyway. As we’ve seen and as you acknowledged, being ‘in a gang’ is not a criminal offense. And it doesn’t deny due process or explain why the Trump Administration didn’t deport him in 2019.

He is, according to the judges a member of a gang, MS-13. He would have been deported if it was not for the protection, remember, his deportation was blocked by asylum? And I should remind you that is part of your argument, that in 2019 he was given protection from deportation with his asylum claim. His claim was that because as the Judges found, he was a member of MS-13, he would be in danger by other gangs if sent back to El Salvador.

It’s a shame that the hill you’ve picked to die on is your acquiescence to having both due process and constitutional rights being eroded or eliminated in order to push stupid political showmanship.

LOl, cakes, you have not made a valid point in months, and you know that, which is why when I ask you to support your assertions, you never do. It is one fail after another.

Carry on.