No Trump defenders left ...?

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_Doctor CamNC4Me
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Re: No Trump defenders left ...?

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You clearly didn't click on it, and now that's beyond doubt since you clicked on the linked shortcut above that is shortened by the quote feature. This is why it's beyond frustrating talking with Trump apologists because THEY DON'T READ. CLICK ON THE LINK I POSTED AND READ THE INFORMATION.

Thank you in advance.

- Doc
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:You clearly didn't click on it, and now that's beyond doubt since you clicked on the linked shortcut above that is shortened by the quote feature. This is why it's beyond frustrating talking with Trump apologists because THEY DON'T READ. CLICK ON THE LINK I POSTED AND READ THE INFORMATION.

Thank you in advance.

- Doc


It's mostly about lying to the FBI and unrelated crimes. Where's the beef? Perhaps it's there but it's only allegations at this point. Maybe you're reading without comprehension or maybe the anti-trump religion is infiltrating your thinking? Obviously anyone who doesn't agree with your opinion is a Trump supporter, right?
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That's two lies now you've stated about the investigation. You stated it was all about lying to the FBI. Now you're stating that it's mostly about lying to the FBI and unrelated crimes.

BOTH ARE WRONG. YOU DON'T READ.

How in the “F” are you a lawyer?

Sigh... I'll break it out for the casual reader.

- Doc
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: No Trump defenders left ...?

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Exiled wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:You clearly didn't click on it, and now that's beyond doubt since you clicked on the linked shortcut above that is shortened by the quote feature. This is why it's beyond frustrating talking with Trump apologists because THEY DON'T READ. CLICK ON THE LINK I POSTED AND READ THE INFORMATION.

Thank you in advance.

- Doc


It's mostly about lying to the FBI and unrelated crimes.


How are convictions of Trump's known associates committing campaign finance violations, lying about talking to a Russian agent, and conducting unregistered lobbying for a foreign government (the Russian-backed Ukrainian regime) unrelated crimes?

Please elaborate.
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The unpictured fella about is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Kilimnik

I don't expect anyone to actually read the wikilink. He's a Russian intelligence operative directly tied to Trump through Manafort. Google him for some fun reading, if you dare, or just skim this NYT article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/06/worl ... afort.html

Ok. Since Exiled is a lazy, lying, piece of crap.

Michael D. Cohen
Mr. Trump’s former lawyer
Lying to Congress (pleaded guilty Nov. 29, 2018), tax evasion, bank fraud, campaign finance violations (pleaded guilty Aug. 21, 2018)

Richard Pinedo
California man who sold bank accounts online
Identity fraud (pleaded guilty Feb. 12, 2018)

George Papadopoulos
Former campaign adviser
Lying to the F.B.I. about conversations with people he believed were working on behalf of Russians (pleaded guilty Oct. 5, 2017)

Paul Manafort
Former campaign chairman
Tax and bank fraud, false statements, being an unregistered agent of a foreign principal, obstruction of justice

Twelve Russian intelligence officers
Conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, identity theft, conspiracy to launder money

Konstantin V. Kilimnik
Russian Army-trained linguist and associate of Mr. Manafort
Obstruction of justice

Alex van der Zwaan
Lawyer who worked with Mr. Manafort and Mr. Gates
Lying to investigators about conversations with Mr. Gates (pleaded guilty Feb. 20, 2018)

Rick Gates
Former campaign adviser
Financial fraud and lying to the F.B.I.

Thirteen Russian nationals
and three related companies
Conspiracy to defraud the U.S., conspiracy to commit bank fraud, identity theft

Michael T. Flynn
Former national security adviser
Lying to the F.B.I. about conversations with the Russian ambassador

Bijan Kian
Former business associate of Michael T. Flynn
Conspiracy to violate federal lobbying rules

Ekim Alptekin
Former business associate of Michael T. Flynn
Conspiracy to violate federal lobbying rules and lying to F.B.I.

Maria Butina
Alleged Russian agent
Conspiring to act as a foreign agent

Sam Patten
Lobbyist linked to Konstantin V. Kilimnik
Failing to register to work as an agent of a foreign power


As you can see only three of the 33 people charged were only charged with lying to the FBI. Some others have lying as a part of larger charges, which are far more grievous and are listed.

Several others have been charged in investigations that stemmed from Mr. Mueller’s inquiry, as well as a broader counterintelligence investigation by the Justice Department and the F.B.I.


Do you have any idea, Exiled, how foolish you look right now not only with your own lying, dissembling, and 'nothing burger' statement, but your complete and utter lack of knowledge surrounding the events of the Mueller investigation. Why I'm frustrated is because you willingly jumped into the fray spouting nonsense, as does other Trumpers, and yet you're totally ignorant on the matter.

What's wrong with you?

- Doc
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: No Trump defenders left ...?

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I think Trump is an idiot and I think Clinton lost because her negatives were really high. Also, it came out that she colluded with the DNC and the mainstream media to gain the nomination and that made enough Bernie supporters angry to change their vote or desire to participate. I find it hard to believe that Trump is a Russian target for control because he is such an idiot loudmouth that he cannot be controlled. So, it's hard to believe that he was or is a Russian stooge. Just give me some proof a$$ hole.
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Re: No Trump defenders left ...?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:That's two lies now you've stated about the investigation. You stated it was all about lying to the FBI. Now you're stating that it's mostly about lying to the FBI and unrelated crimes.

BOTH ARE WRONG. YOU DON'T READ.

How in the ____ are you a lawyer?

Sigh... I'll break it out for the casual reader.

- Doc


Right .... if I don't believe in your erudite anti-trump religion .... some way, some how, I am not a good lawyer. F ..... U .....
"Religion is about providing human community in the guise of solving problems that don’t exist or failing to solve problems that do and seeking to reconcile these contradictions and conceal the failures in bogus explanations otherwise known as theology." - Kishkumen 
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Your ability to read and process context is insanely low, Exiled. Whether or not you're a good lawyer probably depends on how inbred the county is where you play at lawyering.

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Your ability to read and process context is insanely low, Exiled. Whether or not you're a good lawyer probably depends on how inbred the county is where you play at lawyering.

- Doc


Doc, this is right out of the apologist ad hominem playbook.
"Religion is about providing human community in the guise of solving problems that don’t exist or failing to solve problems that do and seeking to reconcile these contradictions and conceal the failures in bogus explanations otherwise known as theology." - Kishkumen 
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Re: No Trump defenders left ...?

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Time to wrap up this thread. :rolleyes:
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