Trump is not a fascist

[canpakes]

That’s the one. I incorrectly called this an executive order, but it’s not. It’s only an article/press release.

Yes, so which is the one with the press release you were speaking of? And again, either way it is a good thing....right?

If your argument is that waffling over tariffs for two weeks during the last month caused billion-dollar companies to announce plans for US expansion that have been in the works for years, then your claim is still a dud.

If you’re asking about a company expanding their US presence, then that certainly could be good, depending on a lot of factors. Are they manufacturing arsenic and pouring their waste products into a pit next to a poor neighborhood? Arguably bad. Are they adding a billion dollars worth of new facility that will require 750 new workers? Better, but not exactly a manufacturing renaissance. Let’s see how these announcements pan out. There’s not much to point to for actual ‘credit’ otherwise.

No, it was not hearsay, it was a "past, proven, and reliable source of information." And in regards to hearsay, it is often admissible in a court of law.

Still hearsay. And still unproven. And still not against the law anyway.

It’s a shame that the hill you’ve picked to die on is your acquiescence to having both due process and constitutional rights being eroded or eliminated in order to push stupid political showmanship.

LOl, cakes, you have not made a valid point in months, and you know that, which is why when I ask you to support your assertions, you never do. It is one fail after another.

As that’s coming from someone who can’t explain how tariffs work, what Trump’s ‘plan’ is, or why you have no issue discarding due process, your opinion is noted.
: D

[Kishkumen]

Why, Markk has no issue discarding due process because two judges thought that Abrego Garcia was MS-13, of course. That makes discarding due process for everyone OK, in Markk-think, at least. We should recognize and acknowledge the fact that Markk has a special Markk-think that does not correspond to reason or facts. It does track pretty well with MAGA, however.

[Markk]

cakes: If your argument is that waffling over tariffs for two weeks during the last month caused billion-dollar companies to announce plans for US expansion that have been in the works for years, then your claim is still a dud.

I am asking you, via an CFR, for that one company you were talking about. It is not that complicated. I simply want to check it out and see which one you were talking about.

I am also asking you, for the 3rd or 4th time, did yo watch the video link/s I gave you? They are important to my points.

Which ones have been in works for years on that list I gave you, if so lets give Biden credit for it....these are all good things right?

Cakes:If you’re asking about a company expanding their US presence, then that certainly could be good, depending on a lot of factors. Are they manufacturing arsenic and pouring their waste products into a pit next to a poor neighborhood? Arguably bad. Are they adding a billion dollars worth of new facility that will require 750 new workers? Better, but not exactly a manufacturing renaissance. Let’s see how these announcements pan out. There’s not much to point to for actual ‘credit’ otherwise

Well I guess this post tells me you did not listen to the link I gave you, or some of the other cf I have pasted. The investments are creating thousands of jobs in the auto industry, A.I., chips, drone tech, pharma and other positive investments. Apple is investing half a trillion in efforts to "come back" to the US. Operation Stargate is investing 500 billion is A.I. infrastructure. NVIDA, 500 billion for chips....here is a running list.

Project Stargate, led by Japan-based Softbank and U.S.-based OpenAI and Oracle, announced a $500 billion private investment in U.S.-based artificial intelligence infrastructure.
Apple announced a $500 billion investment in U.S. manufacturing and training.
NVIDIA, a global chipmaking giant, announced it will invest $500 billion in U.S.-based A.I. infrastructure over the next four years amid its pledge to manufacture A.I. supercomputers entirely in the U.S. for the first time.
IBM announced a $150 billion investment over the next five years in its U.S.-based growth and manufacturing operations.
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) announced a $100 billion investment in U.S.-based chips manufacturing.
Johnson & Johnson announced a $55 billion investment over the next four years in manufacturing, research and development, and technology.
Roche, a Swiss drug and diagnostics company, announced a $50 billion investment in U.S.-based manufacturing and research and development, which is expected to create more than 1,000 full-time jobs and more than 12,000 jobs including construction.
Bristol Myers Squibb announced a $40 billion investment over the next five years in its research, development, technology, and U.S.-based manufacturing operations.
Eli Lilly and Company announced a $27 billion investment to more than double its domestic manufacturing capacity.
United Arab Emirates-based ADQ and U.S.-based Energy Capital Partners announced a $25 billion investment in U.S. data centers and energy infrastructure.
Novartis, a Swiss drugmaker, announced a $23 billion investment to build or expand ten manufacturing facilities across the U.S., which will create 4,000 new jobs.
Hyundai announced a $21 billion U.S.-based investment — including $5.8 billion for a new steel plant in Louisiana, which will create nearly 1,500 jobs.
Hyundai also secured an equity investment and agreement from Posco Holdings, South Korea’s top steel maker.
United Arab Emirates-based DAMAC Properties announced a $20 billion investment in new U.S.-based data centers.
France-based CMA CGM, a global shipping giant, announced a $20 billion investment in U.S. shipping and logistics, creating 10,000 new jobs.
Venture Global LNG announced an $18 billion investment at its liquefied natural gas facility in Louisiana.
AbbVie announced a $10 billion investment over the next ten years to support volume growth and add four new manufacturing plants to its network.
Pratt Industries announced a $5 billion investment to create 5,000 new manufacturing jobs in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Arizona.
Thermo Fisher Scientific announced it will invest an additional $2 billion over the next four years to enhance and expand its U.S. manufacturing operations and strengthen its innovation efforts.
Merck & Co. announced it will invest a total of $9 billion in the U.S. over the next several years after opening a new $1 billion North Carolina manufacturing facility — including in a new state-of-the-art biologics manufacturing plant in Delaware, which will create at least 500 new jobs.
Clarios announced a $6 billion plan to expand its domestic manufacturing operations.
Stellantis announced a $5 billion investment in its U.S. manufacturing network, including re-opening its Belvidere, Illinois, manufacturing plant.
In addition to its overall investments, Amazon announced it is investing $4 billion in small towns across America, creating more than 100,000 new jobs and driving opportunities across the country.
Regeneron Pharmaceuticals, a leader in biotechnology, announced a $3 billion agreement with Fujifilm Diosynth Biotechnologies to produce drugs at its North Carolina manufacturing facility.
NorthMark Strategies, a multi-strategy investment firm, announced a $2.8 billion investment to build a supercomputing facility in South Carolina.
Kimberly-Clark announced a $2 billion investment to expand its U.S. manufacturing operations, including a new advanced manufacturing facility in Warren, Ohio, an expansion of its Beech Island, South Carolina, facility, and other upgrades to its supply chain network.
Chobani, a Greek yogurt giant, announced $1.7 billion to expand its U.S. operations.
$1.2 billion to build its third U.S. dairy processing plant in New York, which is expected to create more than 1,000 new full-time jobs.
$500 million to expand its Idaho manufacturing plant.
Corning announced it is expanding its Michigan manufacturing facility investment to $1.5 billion, adding 400 new high-paying advanced manufacturing jobs for a total of 1,500 new jobs.
GE Aerospace announced a $1 billion investment in manufacturing across 16 states — creating 5,000 new jobs.
Anduril Industries announced a $1 billion investment for a new autonomous weapon system facility in Ohio.
Amgen announced a $900 million investment in its Ohio-based manufacturing operation.
Schneider Electric announced it will invest $700 million over the next four years in U.S. energy infrastructure.
GE Vernova announced it will invest nearly $600 million in U.S. manufacturing over the next two years, which will create more than 1,500 new jobs.
Abbott Laboratories announced a $500 million investment in its Illinois and Texas facilities.
AIP Management, a European infrastructure investor, announced a $500 million investment to solar developer Silicon Ranch.
London-based Diageo announced a $415 million investment in a new Alabama manufacturing facility.
Dublin-based Eaton Corporation announced a $340 million investment in a new South Carolina-based manufacturing facility for its three-phase transformers.
Germany-based Siemens announced a $285 million investment in U.S. manufacturing and A.I. data centers, which will create more than 900 new skilled manufacturing jobs.
The Bel Group announced a $350 million investment to expand its U.S.-based production, including at its South Dakota, Idaho and Wisconsin facilities — which will create 250 new jobs.
Clasen Quality Chocolate announced a $230 million investment to build a new production facility in Virginia, which will create 250 new jobs.
Fiserv, Inc., a financial technology provider, announced a $175 million investment to open a new strategic fintech hub in Kansas, which is expected to create 2,000 new high-paying jobs.
Paris Baguette announced a $160 million investment to construct a manufacturing plant in Texas.
TS Conductor announced a $134 million investment to build an advanced conductor manufacturing facility in South Carolina, which will create nearly 500 new jobs.
Switzerland-based ABB announced a $120 million investment to expand production of its low-voltage electrification products in Tennessee and Mississippi.
Saica Group, a Spain-based corrugated packaging maker, announced plans to build a $110 million new manufacturing facility in Anderson, Indiana.
Hotpack, a Dubai-based maker of food packaging materials and related products, announced a $100 million investment to establish its first U.S. manufacturing facility in Edison, New Jersey.
Charms, LLC, a subsidiary of candymaker Tootsie Roll Industries, announced a $97.7 million investment to expand its production plant and distribution center in Tennessee.
Toyota Motor Corporation announced an $88 million investment to boost hybrid vehicle production at its West Virginia factory, securing employment for the 2,000 workers at the factory.
AeroVironment, a defense contractor, announced a $42.3 million investment to build a new manufacturing facility in Utah.
Paris-based Saint-Gobain announced a new $40 million NorPro manufacturing facility in Wheatfield, New York.
India-based Sygene International announced a $36.5 million acquisition of a Baltimore biologics manufacturing facility.
Asahi Group Holdings, one of the largest Japanese beverage makers, announced a $35 million investment to boost production at its Wisconsin plant.
Cyclic Materials, a Canadian advanced recycling company for rare earth elements, announced a $20 million investment in its first U.S.-based commercial facility, located in Mesa, Arizona.
Guardian Bikes announced a $19 million investment to build the first U.S.-based large-scale bicycle frame manufacturing operation in Indiana.
Amsterdam-based AMG Critical Minerals announced a $15 million investment to build a chrome manufacturing facility in Pennsylvania.
NOVONIX Limited, an Australia-based battery technology company, announced a $4.6 million investment to build a synthetic graphite manufacturing facility in Tennessee.
LGM Pharma announced a $6 million investment to expand its manufacturing facility in Rosenberg, Texas.
ViDARR, a defense optical equipment manufacturer, announced a $2.69 million investment to open a new facility in Virginia.
That doesn’t even include the U.S. investments pledged by foreign countries:

United Arab Emirates announced a $1.4 trillion investment in the U.S. over the next decade.
Saudi Arabia announced it intends to invest $600 billion in the U.S. over the next four years.
Japan announced a $1 trillion investment in the U.S.
Taiwan announced a pledge to boost its U.S.-based investment.
Last updated on May 6, 2025
https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/202 ... cond-term/

Cakes, why isn't this positive news. In your opinion should we stop these companies form investing here and creating jobs?

[Markk]

Cakes: Still hearsay. And still unproven. And still not against the law anyway.

Well it was proven in a federal court, and he was detained because of it, and received protection based on the judges decisions. You can deny that all you like, but it is what happened and is documented in court documents.

And it is against the law for certain designated gangs via the AEA And an Executive decision and right, and what will be argued in the the Supreme Court as a executive responsibility.

Again you can deny what has occurred and where this is heading if you like, but it won't change it.

[Markk]

cakes: As that’s coming from someone who can’t explain how tariffs work, what Trump’s ‘plan’ is, or why you have no issue discarding due process, your opinion is noted.
: D

Well again, you can pretend what you wish, but all you have to do is do a honest research on what tariffs have and are accomplishing and go back and see that as I wrote, tariffs are the first thing we see in the greater plan for MAGA. They are a leveraging tool for many things, and so far very effective, from securing the border to free trade agreements, to folks that are investing in our country because of the tariffs, and if you watched the links I provided you would here this from these investors own lips. .

Hopefully for America it will continue to have positive affects. I am certainly rooting for then to work out well. Do you hope they work out, or are you in your heart hoping for they fail?

[Markk]

Why, Markk has no issue discarding due process because two judges thought that Abrego Garcia was MS-13, of course. That makes discarding due process for everyone OK, in Markk-think, at least. We should recognize and acknowledge the fact that Markk has a special Markk-think that does not correspond to reason or facts. It does track pretty well with MAGA, however.

Lol, wow, you have been throwing my name out a lot lately kish? Hound just might have to start a thread call "Markk derangement syndrome" if this continues?

On a serious note....When and if you are actually ready to address in dig into some of the things I have been asserting here, I would love that. One positive I see is that I am no longer on your foe list. One topic I would love to discuss with you is your list that you pasted on a reasonable path for citizenship, and how in the now and future we can encourage it, and enforce it in regard to those that do not want to follow it.

Peace

[Kishkumen]

Lol, wow, you have been throwing my name out a lot lately kish? Hound just might have to start a thread call "Markk derangement syndrome" if this continues?

On a serious note....When and if you are actually ready to address in dig into some of the things I have been asserting here, I would love that. One positive I see is that I am no longer on your foe list. One topic I would love to discuss with you is your list that you pasted on a reasonable path for citizenship, and how in the now and future we can encourage it, and enforce it in regard to those that do not want to follow it.

Peace

Hey, Markk! Can you tell us again why you think the rule of law is not important?

Thanks in advance.

[Kishkumen]

Massive blow to Trump as Japanese car giant [Subaru] moves manufacturing OUT of US in tariff twist

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... r-AA1DzZ4y

15 Iconic American Brands Saying Goodbye to the USA in 2025 (Craftsman Tools, Gibson Guitars, New Balance, KitchenAid, Crayola, Hershey's, Wilson Sporting Goods, Ray-Ban, Wrangler, Nike, American Girl Dolls, Converse, Levi Strauss, Harley-Davidson)

https://craftyourhappyplace.com/iconic- ... a-in-2025/

These Companies Have Pulled Out Products from the US Due to Trump's Tariffs

From airplanes to toys and even spirits, industries across the board are stepping back. Delta Air Lines and Frontier Group, two major players in US aviation, recently withdrew their 2025 financial forecasts.

https://www.ibtimes.com/these-companies ... fs-3770590

These companies invested in being American-made. Tariffs are hurting them, too

https://www.fastcompany.com/91327234/am ... by-tariffs

Automakers aren’t rushing to move production to US factories to avoid tariffs

But after seeing Canadian and Mexican tariffs announced and then put on hold a couple of times already this year, automakers aren’t really sure what’s next. And even if they believe the tariffs will be in place for as long as Trump is in office, they say there’s no way to quickly pivot to significantly limit the costs of the tariffs being passed onto car buyers.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/27/cars/us- ... s-intl-hnk

Want to Bring Factories Back? This Is What It Takes.

However, the process of onshoring production is far more complex and time-consuming than policymakers and the public may realize. Companies moving manufacturing to the U.S. will likely face a long and bumpy road—one that could involve supply chain disruptions and higher inflation.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/Trump- ... s-a36686cb

People Thought Ford Was Moving Four Factories Back To U.S.

Ford spokesperson Dan Barbossa told Snopes via email, adding that Ford hasn’t made any announcements regarding the automaker’s plans to shift production.

https://fordauthority.com/2025/04/peopl ... ck-to-u-s/

Manufacturing activity hits 5-month low as Trump tariffs leave businesses in 'state of near paralysis'

US manufacturing activity slid to a five-month low in April as President Trump's tariffs continued to create uncertainty for businesses.

The Institute for Supply Management's manufacturing PMI fell to 48.7 in April, below the 49 seen the month prior. Readings below 50 indicate contraction in the sector.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/manufact ... 27991.html

Tariffs force U.S. bicycle company to halt imports from China

"We had already shifted some of our business, almost half our business, to several of the countries on that list," Kamler said. "And we're getting out of China and now we're still getting slammed. It's just completely unfair."

Arnold indicates that fully manufacturing and assembling their bikes in the U.S. is not financially tenable from a cost-perspective.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tariffs-u- ... rom-china/

'A matter of survival': Small Businesses Speak Out on Tariffs

“I will be in business 40 years next year. ... At the end of this year, my once successful family business is done. Without warning, we may have to close unless the tariffs are taken away. I do not have time to change suppliers or build a shoe factory.”
— Jeffrey Savoca, president, Up-Front Footwear, Mount Joy, Pennsylvania

https://www.uschamber.com/small-busines ... de-tariffs

I could keep this up all day, but you probably get the point. The more worrying thing, in my view, is the impact on small business. Most Americans are employed by small businesses, and many small businesses will shutter thanks to these tariffs. That will have a broad and devastating impact on the economy and real Americans that Apple's (and other giant corporations') expansion cannot hope to compensate for.

[Hound of Heaven]

Why, Markk has no issue discarding due process because two judges thought that Abrego Garcia was MS-13, of course. That makes discarding due process for everyone OK, in Markk-think, at least. We should recognize and acknowledge the fact that Markk has a special Markk-think that does not correspond to reason or facts. It does track pretty well with MAGA, however.

Lol, wow, you have been throwing my name out a lot lately kish? Hound just might have to start a thread call "Markk derangement syndrome" if this continues?

On a serious note....When and if you are actually ready to address in dig into some of the things I have been asserting here, I would love that. One positive I see is that I am no longer on your foe list. One topic I would love to discuss with you is your list that you pasted on a reasonable path for citizenship, and how in the now and future we can encourage it, and enforce it in regard to those that do not want to follow it.

Peace

Hey there, Markk! I'm not really looking to add much to this conversation since you've got it all wrapped up with your sensible way of tackling the nonsense the progressives are throwing at you.

So, I just had to hop on here and say, I kinda agree with you! Kishkumen has been pulling some interesting stunts lately, and his posts are definitely taking a turn from his usual antics. I'm beginning to suspect that Trump derangement syndrome has its own set of stages, kind of like bipolar disorder. It seems like Kishkumen is stuck in the hypoplasia phase of this syndrome because he's definitely not acting like his usual self! In the last few weeks, he's kicked off at least 10 threads, and only one managed to crawl past the first page. Maybe he's a bit miffed that his progressive pals aren't exactly flocking to the delightful nonsense he's dishing out on the board. Or maybe he's just a little miffed that whenever I drop a new thread, it instantly grabs the spotlight, leaving his not-so-stellar threads in the dust. Poor guy, can't catch a break!

Well, I guess this is my grand exit from this thread! Just wanted to say you're absolutely nailing it while demolishing those wild posts from the progressives like a pro. Keep up the good work! Writing a post to tackle the wild situations they describe is like trying to juggle flaming swords while riding a unicycle! Most of their words seem to ooze from a well of hatred and disdain for anyone who dares to think differently from their little cult's sales pitch.

Wishing you all the luck in the world, just remember to keep that chin up like you're trying to impress a giraffe!

[Kishkumen]

Hey there, Markk! I'm not really looking to add much to this conversation since you've got it all wrapped up with your sensible way of tackling the nonsense the progressives are throwing at you.

Yeah! Uhuh! Like all of that stuff where Markk fails to understand the Constitution and is incapable of dealing with basic facts? For HoH, facts=nonsense.

So, I just had to hop on here and say, I kinda agree with you! Kishkumen has been pulling some interesting stunts lately, and his posts are definitely taking a turn from his usual antics. I'm beginning to suspect that Trump derangement syndrome has its own set of stages, kind of like bipolar disorder. It seems like Kishkumen is stuck in the hypoplasia phase of this syndrome because he's definitely not acting like his usual self! In the last few weeks, he's kicked off at least 10 threads, and only one managed to crawl past the first page. Maybe he's a bit miffed that his progressive pals aren't exactly flocking to the delightful nonsense he's dishing out on the board. Or maybe he's just a little miffed that whenever I drop a new thread, it instantly grabs the spotlight, leaving his not-so-stellar threads in the dust. Poor guy, can't catch a break!

Thank you for demonstrating, once again, your TDS, or, in other words, the one where reality is the meeting point of Trump's penis and your lips. You are so overcome with pleasure that nothing else matters. You have your truth in that pleasure, and that's all you need.

Here, in the real world, where facts matter, the denizens of that world probably recognize that the spring term is over, freeing me up a little to try to help you get a little oxygen now and then. I am glad that my friends on this board have other things to do. That tells me they are not, as you are, caught in an erotic embrace with a septuagenarian wearing orange makeup and sporting a tiny mushroom dick.

We still have hope that you will wake up to the reality of your plight.