EXXON Contradicts its Own Scientists

[_Tobin]

When you have already as much as admitted that you have refused to look at the evidence we have already provided, why should we go to the trouble of providing it for you again? I don't think any reasonable person on this forum would agree with you that we have not provided any evidence.

Oh, you mean propaganda sites promoting the global warming religious agenda. If you have impartial sites that simply present the facts instead of unsubstantiated claims, I'm all for it. If you want to present silly speculations that certain areas of the world will be unlivable even though dinosaurs survived just fine with a much higher average global temperature (and they didn't have air conditioning), then I'll pass.

[_Tobin]

Classic case of projection! The only one here guilty of deception and ignoring relevant points here is you!

It's not projection at all. I've provided a concrete example of actual deceit. No scientist with any credibility would engage in behavior like that since it would destroy their credibility. Why should we trust what Brad has to say when he engages in intellectually dishonest behavior? Why should you believe someone that dismisses the facts and won't engage honest criticisms of his position?

[_Gunnar]

As has been already established common sense is not very common.

I would word it slightly differently and say it is uncommon for common sense, by itself, to be reliable.

[_Gunnar]

I've provided a concrete example of actual deceit

No, you haven't! Not even close! And you're still projecting! At best you have demonstrated your profound inability or refusal to understand Brad's arguments.

[_Gunnar]

When you have already as much as admitted that you have refused to look at the evidence we have already provided, why should we go to the trouble of providing it for you again? I don't think any reasonable person on this forum would agree with you that we have not provided any evidence.

Oh, you mean propaganda sites promoting the global warming religious agenda. If you have impartial sites that simply present the facts instead of unsubstantiated claims, I'm all for it. If you want to present silly speculations that certain areas of the world will be unlivable even though dinosaurs survived just fine with a much higher average global temperature (and they didn't have air conditioning), then I'll pass.

I rest my case!

[Guest]

No, you haven't! Not even close! And you're still projecting! At best you have demonstrated your profound inability or refusal to understand Brad's arguments.

Yes, I just did provide a concrete example. Brad was being deceptive using average world temperatures. That is a fact. You are just too bigoted and biased to admit the fact of the matter here.

[_Tobin]

I rest my case!

And you lost your case.

[_Gunnar]

No, you haven't! Not even close! And you're still projecting! At best you have demonstrated your profound inability or refusal to understand Brad's arguments.

Yes, I just did provide a concrete example. Brad was being deceptive using average world temperatures. That is a fact. You are just too bigoted and biased to admit the fact of the matter here.

You haven't been able to show how that is deceptive. All we have is your flat, unsupported assertion that it is, based on your profound misunderstanding of the relevant issues and the relevant scientific evidence, most of which you stubbornly refuse to even look at.

[_Tobin]

You haven't been able to show how that is deceptive. All we have is your flat, unsupported assertion that it is, based on your profound misunderstanding of the relevant issues and the science involved.

Reread what I stated about it. It isn't reflective of how global warming works seasonally nor is it true for over half of the world's surface area that is semi-tropical to tropical. Brad ignored these very important points because he was nailed to the wall when I pointed out he was being deceptive by using global averages. What I find interesting is that after he discredited himself using deception, that people like you are so biased you just ignored this fact. I simply wrote him off as a crank who is incapable of intellectual honesty. And I think most reasonable people without your biases can see through his deception as well.

[_The CCC]

Yep all these scientific organizations that have the training and expertise in the subjection are being deceitful.
SEE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientifi ... ate_change